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Old 12-12-2011, 07:25 PM #1
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Dm12 vs. Demon

Have yet to see this done so...

Which do you think is better, things to consider

Efficiency
Weight
Ergonomics
Barrel
Customer service
Packaging
Looks ( preference)
Maintenance
Barrel rise or kick
Feed neck
Reliability
Sound signature
Consistency
Any others...

And I don't want to hear how great some other gun is just these two.
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Old 12-12-2011, 07:31 PM #2
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I would say this would be a good comparison IF the DM12 weren't so insanely overpriced.

As is...

Demon wins efficiency
I believe the Demon wins weight, but they're close
Ergonomics are highly personal, I like the Demon better because of the trigger
Demon has multiple bores, so wins the barrel
CS is a draw, I've gotten great CS from both companies myself
Packaging the Demon wins, although a larger package, I just like it more
Looks is yes, preference, here I actually prefer the DM12
Maintenance is a draw
Kick is a draw
Feedneck is a draw
Reliability I give to the Demon, because the eyepipes still are a shi**y idea and break too often.
Sound I've never heard them back to back so can't say.
Consistency is a draw

Demon wins for accessories since it includes a rechargeable battery and is internally plumbed.
Demon CRUSHES the DM12 for the board since it includes a full color OLED not LED (this is the big one for me, I'm color blind so programming LED boards is horribly difficult)
Demon is also like $200 cheaper.

IMO, it's a no brainer. The DM line honestly hasn't improved since the DM8 other than a few ounces, and actually regressed in some aspects (eye pipes) while their competitors have made leaps and bounds of progress.
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Old 12-12-2011, 07:36 PM #3
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I agree with miller all the way on this. The Dm12 is cool, but it isn't worth the money. All they added was a magnetic bolt locking system to the DM. Not much of an improvement.
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Old 12-13-2011, 01:37 AM #4
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You vanguard guys are pretty biased
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Old 12-13-2011, 01:43 AM #5
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I'm on the vanguard bandwagon also when it comes to the dm vs demon.
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Old 12-13-2011, 04:02 PM #6
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What's wrong with the eye pipes, I know everyone says that but never give any reason?
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Old 12-13-2011, 05:22 PM #7
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They break far too often. Go into the Dye forum, probably the #1 thing you see asking for support is ball breaks caused by a cracked eye pipe. Or eye failure due to a cracked eye pipe.

Eye Pipes = ultimate fail idea that does nothing beneficial for the consumer but is one more way of making even MORE money for Dye.
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