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11-22-2011, 09:54 AM
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Greek, I am it
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Terrain eval, standby
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I don't understand, why do you not let them wash it?
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11-22-2011, 10:06 AM
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#86
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Carpe Diem
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Chicago
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Because improper wash techniques, which most every dealer uses, result in micro scratching in the clearcoat. They use the same dirty crap all day and drag debris across the paint surface. It produces a "spider web" effect on the car which looks terrible. With a dark colored car, particularly black, which I have, it is even more noticeable.
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now, polished:
One dealer wash and I will have to spend my entire Sunday claying, polishing, and rewaxing/sealing my car. That's especially not fun when its 25 degrees out.
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11-22-2011, 12:59 PM
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#87
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Tree Fitty
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
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what he said. It's incredibly easy to swirl your paint up when improperly washing it.
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11-22-2011, 02:30 PM
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#88
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Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Eight Six Oh
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ynnekdude
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so clean...
you dropped your orange peel by the way
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11-22-2011, 02:36 PM
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Carpe Diem
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Chicago
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That wasn't my orange peel. The detailer sent me those pics as he was doing my car.
No actually I just took those off DetailingBliss.com
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11-23-2011, 12:02 PM
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Greek, I am it
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Terrain eval, standby
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That's your car?
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Originally Posted by orionz06
Isopropyl alcohol should remove any oils and build up that would be allowing a film to form over.
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Either my windows are extremely, extremely ****ty (which I should agree) or it didn't do anything that I can see. Tonight on my way home from work I'll be able to get some fogging and see the damage.
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Last edited by DyePaintballer2k11 : 11-23-2011 at 12:37 PM.
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11-23-2011, 02:28 PM
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Tree Fitty
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
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The towels you use to clean windows make a big difference too. If you don't feel like buying window towels from a detail store, use newspaper. If the windows have a film, you may need to clean them a few times.
Try using stoners window cleaner a few times, then hitting it with IPA.
Last edited by Alan777 : 11-23-2011 at 02:37 PM.
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11-23-2011, 08:57 PM
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Greek, I am it
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Terrain eval, standby
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Just using IPA left giant smears on my windows. Good thing I carry a microfiber with me.
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11-23-2011, 09:51 PM
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FTB
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Vancouver BC Canada
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DyePaintballer2k11
I don't understand, why do you not let them wash it?
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At the dealership I worked at, we did ****ty jobs on peoples vehicles after they'd been serviced. If you really care about your car, tell them not to wash it.
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11-23-2011, 11:39 PM
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RIP DIO 1942-2010
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Pittsburgh
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Quote:
Originally Posted by weso98
At the dealership I worked at, we did ****ty jobs on peoples vehicles after they'd been serviced. If you really care about your car, tell them not to wash it.
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I was anal as **** at the dealership I detailed at. Like I told my manager I wanted my own mitt and ****, meanwhile the tard's I worked with washed service cars (and new vehicles even) in the most unbelievable fashion you could imagine. And it wasnt just isolated times, like they would hire anybody that said they knew how to wash a car without even showing them proper technique.
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11-24-2011, 01:29 AM
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Rob V
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: chicago
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wet sanded my headlights, i need to polish them before I wax right?? I waxed them with turtle wax, they are cloudy (not yellow) still but the surface is smooth, I was told that i should have polished them first, and to clean them with an ammonia based glass cleaner and then polish them, that sound about right?
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11-24-2011, 06:55 AM
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#96
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Tree Fitty
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
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After you're all done sanding (I end with 2500 in my kit) wipe the headlights down, compound, polish, then wax them. You'll need to keep them waxed as well, or the oxidation will come back pretty quick.
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11-25-2011, 12:31 AM
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bewb
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Wilmington, NC
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TheNforcer
I was anal as **** at the dealership I detailed at. Like I told my manager I wanted my own mitt and ****, meanwhile the tard's I worked with washed service cars (and new vehicles even) in the most unbelievable fashion you could imagine. And it wasnt just isolated times, like they would hire anybody that said they knew how to wash a car without even showing them proper technique.
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Not everyone that works at a stealership is a complete tard, just an unfortunate amount.
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11-25-2011, 11:17 AM
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Tree Fitty
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
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when i worked at ford, they'd smoke in/around the cars they cleaned. Kids burned paint a few times buffing cars out. It's pretty hard to find a detailer that cares about the work they do, private shop or stealership
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11-25-2011, 11:27 AM
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#No****sGiven
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Middle O Nowhere SE WI
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this is the kit I'm looking at picking up does anyone have any better suggestions?
http://www.autogeek.net/pc-foam-pad-...m-pad-kit.html
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11-26-2011, 09:17 PM
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bewb
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Wilmington, NC
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Alan777
when i worked at ford, they'd smoke in/around the cars they cleaned. Kids burned paint a few times buffing cars out. It's pretty hard to find a detailer that cares about the work they do, private shop or stealership
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Makes those of us that do look better.
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11-27-2011, 11:47 PM
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#101
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Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: *570*
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Originally Posted by Evil_Paintball_freek
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I would buy the PC or one of the other dual action machines and this http://www.autogeek.net/da-microfibe...r-kit-5in.html. pretty solid system, and if you want to add on later check out HD uno for a polish and poxy as an lsp.
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11-28-2011, 02:04 AM
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BANGBANG
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Can anybody recommend some good products that arent too expensive. Looking to get my car ready to put away for the winter.
The car has been sitting in the garage for 2 years, with an ocasional wash just to get the dust off of it. I finally got it all together and running and I just got my hood, bumper, and fenders back from paint, so those are all nice and shiny and smooth. Id like to claybar the rest of the car, I can feel how rough the paint feels compared to the new stuff and theres some small scratches I want to try and get out.
Im basically looking to clay everything except the newly painted parts. and then wax the whole car. Just looking for something not too expensive that I can get locally. In the spring I will probably spend some more money on some good products, but for now Im just looking for something quick.
I was looking at the meguiars clay kit, and could anyone recommend a decent wax I could get locally?
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11-28-2011, 11:34 AM
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#103
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Tree Fitty
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
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Quote:
Originally Posted by atomicbadgerman
Makes those of us that do look better.
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definitely. I just hated working with people like that
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Originally Posted by optionboarder81
Can anybody recommend some good products that arent too expensive. Looking to get my car ready to put away for the winter.
The car has been sitting in the garage for 2 years, with an ocasional wash just to get the dust off of it. I finally got it all together and running and I just got my hood, bumper, and fenders back from paint, so those are all nice and shiny and smooth. Id like to claybar the rest of the car, I can feel how rough the paint feels compared to the new stuff and theres some small scratches I want to try and get out.
Im basically looking to clay everything except the newly painted parts. and then wax the whole car. Just looking for something not too expensive that I can get locally. In the spring I will probably spend some more money on some good products, but for now Im just looking for something quick.
I was looking at the meguiars clay kit, and could anyone recommend a decent wax I could get locally?
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Megs gold class , Megs claybar, NXT 2.0. Getting scratches out by hand is a *****. If you have a carquest locally then they carry 3M stuff. Pricey, but great to work with.
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11-28-2011, 01:04 PM
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#104
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BANGBANG
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Originally Posted by Alan777
Megs gold class , Megs claybar, NXT 2.0. Getting scratches out by hand is a *****. If you have a carquest locally then they carry 3M stuff. Pricey, but great to work with.
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Thanks and its not really a big scratch, just like black paint on the mirror from rubbing against something. Its not a big deal if I cant get it out.
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Last edited by optionboarder81 : 11-28-2011 at 11:55 PM.
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11-28-2011, 11:49 PM
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#105
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bewb
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Wilmington, NC
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Alan777
definitely. I just hated working with people like that
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I did at first. But why bother being upset by losers? The more jerkoffs there are, the bigger my paychecks are going to be  I say let the morons loose!
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