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Old 11-27-2011, 02:30 PM #106
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How much does d2 payout?
I don't know of a single team that is playing paintball for the money.
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Old 11-27-2011, 06:49 PM #107
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I don't know of a single team that is playing paintball for the money.
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I wasn't serious, just messing with him haha
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Old 11-27-2011, 11:08 PM #108
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Old 11-27-2011, 11:41 PM #109
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Lets get some info on it aready
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Old 11-28-2011, 03:35 PM #110
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Please, it early i knew but getting a rough idea about how many ppl we may need on our rosters would be nice. If its going to be 7man xball thats going to change a lot
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Old 11-28-2011, 03:46 PM #111
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Old 11-28-2011, 07:59 PM #112
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They went bankrupt due to an outside sponsorship of the nppl going bankrupt. It had nothing to do with their "business skills". Just look at how they recovered in three months time to have a successful year in 2009. Id say that is good business.
The NPPL that last went bankrupt has nothing in common with the current NPPL except name and format.


If you think the last NPPL went bankrupt because an outside sponsor went away you're woefully uninformed. Even if it were true, which it isn't, that would mean the league put itself in a position where one sponsor determined whether the league survived or not, which would be... maybe poor business skills?

The last NPPL went bankrupt because they were spending a TON of money staging the events they were staging, not bringing in nearly that much money, and somebody (guess who) was misappropriating very large amounts of cash. By the time the owners figured out what was going on, the hole was too big to get out of.

But again, that was an entirely different company.

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As far as media I dont remember the psp ever being on television for the espn
Your memory is poor. PSP was televised on ESPN in December 2004.

Your memory also appears to be inventing things. NPPL (the current one) has never been on ESPN. An entirely different NPPL was on ESPN in (I think) 2006.

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or g4 television,
Paintball is on major series like big bang theory, CSI, etc, on a fairly frequent basis. The real question is, what positive thing happened as a result of this television exposure?

I mean, if we're going to talk awesome media skills, PSP should merge with NCPA, which has been on TV every year since 2005, *AND* we've never paid for air time. And we have a contract through 2013.

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and next year there is talk about them being on the x games
Just like there was talk THIS year of being on the X games? And talk LAST year of being on the X Games? How long is there "going to be talk" about being on the X-Games?

I think PSP will be in the Olympics next year. There, now there's talk about PSP being in the Olympics. Isn't any more true, of course.

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and being able to be ordered on on-demand. So yes, their media.
Why is being On-Demand better than being on YouTube?


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Old 11-28-2011, 08:11 PM #113
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no im not talking about the smart parts tourney. im talking about the half a decade paintball was on television on the espn.
The what?


The 1995? World Cup was on ESPN at the wee hours of the morning, courtesy Jerry Braun. The 2004 World Cup was on ESPN via NXL and Dick Clark Productions. The 2005 NPPL Commanders Cup was on ESPN. Smart Parts staged a "World Paintball Championship" of mostly NXL teams that was broadcast on ESPN in 2006 and 2007.

That is the complete history of paintball on ESPN.

Milt Call's Ultimate Arena league was on WGN for I think two seasons in 2006 and 2007.

Pacific Paintball's NPPL paid hundreds of thousands to millions of dollars to Fox to run Beyond the Paint at 4:30 PM on a Tuesday in 2007 and I think 2008 (don't remember if 2008 made it to TV).

NCPA did the college paintball championships on College Sports Television (now CBS College Sports) in 2005 and 2006, and on Fox College Sports and Fox Sports Net from 2007 through 2011. (That outlay was one of the reasons for the bankruptcy.)

I'm pretty sure that's the complete history of competitive paintball broadcasts on major networks.


I have no idea where you got a "half decade" from. Probably the same place you get the rest of your "stuff".


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Old 11-28-2011, 11:02 PM #114
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From what I understood.. there will not be a merge and the 2 leagues will continue to have their differences. format locations rof and cost were all topics that i heard were issues. This was all rumored talks at Vegas. Tho a coach did say one league will be an official feeder league to PSP.. almost making NPPL a non factor when it comes to competing for teams in 7 man. If the 5 man psp format is that much successful over the NPPL, NPPL needs to adapt to a similar format with small modications such as rof, coaching/no coaching, protected colors, ramping/no ramping, etc.. Vegas was fun, but the ranking system failed and officials failed to check for sandbagging as well as some markers were found bouncy, yet let go since they couldnt get it to ramp. just some things I noticed while visiting the event. Something that Camille and co., corrected in the PSP, using their sytem and having Virtue track markers and speeds.
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Your memory also appears to be inventing things. NPPL (the current one) has never been on ESPN. An entirely different NPPL was on ESPN in (I think) 2006.
Correct, they aired the 2005 NPPL Miami Pro event during the Late Winter/Early Spring 2006.


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Old 11-28-2011, 11:21 PM #116
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I have no idea where you got a "half decade" from. Probably the same place you get the rest of your "stuff".
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Thank You Mr. Raehl, I was actually searching ESPN looking for some evidence of that 1/2 decade to watch. The paintball video's that pop up on espn searching for paintball is from HB which did not play.

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PSP, using their sytem and having Virtue track markers and speeds.
If I'm not mistaken the Virtue board tracking system is in the NPPL. Nice of the NPPL to help create a board monopoly if you want to play in the NPPL. I guess that's one way to guarantee a sponsor to stay involved in the league.

That is an interesting point there is numerous "regional feeder leagues" that are PSP based. I don't know of any 7 man series at least out here on the West coast, which doesn't even have a PSP event happen in the area
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Old 11-28-2011, 11:28 PM #117
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If I'm not mistaken the Virtue board tracking system is in the NPPL. Nice of the NPPL to help create a board monopoly if you want to play in the NPPL. I guess that's one way to guarantee a sponsor to stay involved in the league.
Wrong. You do not need a Virtue board to play in the NPPL. Virtue simply installed their RF chip into PRO markers so that the league could monitor ROF and amount of shots fired in a match. They are attached to the stock (or sponsored aftermarket) boards.

In fact, my Arsenal Victory has a VIRTUE RF CHIP attached to its....TADAO board!



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Old 11-29-2011, 01:31 AM #119
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Wrong. You do not need a Virtue board to play in the NPPL. Virtue simply installed their RF chip into PRO markers so that the league could monitor ROF and amount of shots fired in a match. They are attached to the stock (or sponsored aftermarket) boards.

In fact, my Arsenal Victory has a VIRTUE RF CHIP attached to its....TADAO board!

If you are misinformed, stop helping others become so as well.
I was just correcting his statement that it was in the PSP.
I'm just going by what was said during the broadcast, don't remember who, but what they said was that the Virtue "board" was on all pro markers and would be trickling down to all divisions. He did not distinguish that it was a chip , just referenced a "Virtue board".
My markers don't use chip or boards so I don't claim to be an expert and was just expressing an opinion.
If you are informed and can offer a clarification than do so without being a dick.
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I was just correcting his statement that it was in the PSP.
I'm just going by what was said during the broadcast, don't remember who, but what they said was that the Virtue "board" was on all pro markers and would be trickling down to all divisions. He did not distinguish that it was a chip , just referenced a "Virtue board".
My markers don't use chip or boards so I don't claim to be an expert and was just expressing an opinion.
If you are informed and can offer a clarification than do so without being a dick.
You should probably put the highlighted in your signature then, so people do not take your opinion seriously.
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Old 11-29-2011, 10:35 AM #121
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You should probably put the highlighted in your signature then, so people do not take your opinion seriously.
he uses a mechanical gun...
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Dleague is the feeder. Is the RPL still around?
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I got that, but unfortunately not everyone on this website is a mind reader. So when you say something ignorant like "Nice of the NPPL to help create a board monopoly if you want to play in the NPPL," all you do is perpetuate rumors and untruths. Then he admitted after the fact that electronic markers are not his field of expertise...so what is one doing posting about something they know little about? Why would anyone care of your opinion when it is an uneducated one?

So, as I said, if you want people to know something about you, like the fact that you know very little about electronic markers, but are going to post about them anyway, make sure you let it be known so people that actually do care or do know something about the topic will know NOT to take you seriously.

The same can be said about most of the posts in this thread. If you aren't sitting on the board of directors at the NPPL and know about their financials, then all your information regarding the subject is simply heresay.

Also, in regards to the "Richard-ness" of my post (#117), it simply was nothing of the sort. Bluntly disproving a rumor with fact, while combining a bit of comedic relief in the form of a gopher, is not harsh. Just because your point is refuted does not mean that the person doing so is "hating on you," or "being a dick." This isn't kindergarten people, just because somebody showed you that his Charizard is actually better than your Pikachu doesn't mean he's "a big old meanie face mcgee pants."
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so here is the here say.. The merger is no more. There will be 2 leagues in 2012, as I was told in Vegas, it happened..
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Then he admitted after the fact that electronic markers are not his field of expertise...so what is one doing posting about something they know little about? Why would anyone care of your opinion when it is an uneducated one?
Actually I said I didn't play with one doesn't mean I don't have any expertise with them.


The same can be said about most of the posts in this thread. If you aren't sitting on the board of directors at the NPPL and know about their financials, then all your information regarding the subject is simply heresay.
I agree with most of this. I just find it funny that people get so bent out of shape with whats posted here in PBNation. After all it is just a blog

Also, in regards to the "Richard-ness" of my post (#117), it simply was nothing of the sort. Bluntly disproving a rumor with fact, while combining a bit of comedic relief in the form of a gopher, is not harsh. Just because your point is refuted does not mean that the person doing so is "hating on you," or "being a dick." This isn't kindergarten people, just because somebody showed you that his Charizard is actually better than your Pikachu doesn't mean he's "a big old meanie face mcgee pants."
I have to believe that your sense of humor is a little one sided as in giving and not taking I meant that all in jest if I was attempting to insult you I could have done so with much harsher words and/or internet art.


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You should probably put the highlighted in your signature then, so people do not take your opinion seriously.
I'm guessing that you passed over post #83 where I qualified my opinions by proclaiming to one and all that I am a.......Pump Player.
Also in my signature is....OSC= Old School Challenge, a Pump league and OSOKO= One Shot One Kill Open, a Pump league.
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