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11-27-2011, 10:51 AM
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Quick Black Magic Question
I want to build a black magic pump (the newer body). I heard the valve is not the standard cocker valve. Would it be the same as the trilogy valve? Also, will any other valve fit (karnivor, SR, or spyder)? Also what would be the pump arm length (I think it's 7 1/2")? And as far as the internals, would everything else be the same? Thanks!
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11-27-2011, 11:41 AM
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Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Guatemala (for real)
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Yeah, it's a trilogy valve, you can also use a maddman T1 valve or an AKA merlin spec tornado valve, spyder valve will fit but the valve pin will need replacing with a non-blowback pin. If you want cheap and decent go trilogy valve, if you want performance get the tornado valve.
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11-27-2011, 12:31 PM
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Excellent! And what about the pump arm length?
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11-27-2011, 01:34 PM
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#4
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Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Guatemala (for real)
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mid/halfblock, if you don't mind paying bnib prices get it at painballgateway, otherwise I don't have any measuring devices handy ATM.
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11-27-2011, 11:00 PM
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#5
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Collin_CSL_Owner
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Tulsa
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Do either of you know where i can get a Hitman mod for a Karnivor Pump
PM ME PLEASE
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12-17-2011, 06:08 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: My Dojo
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Do you still have this? Let me know either way. Thanks
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12-18-2011, 10:24 AM
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wanabe gunwhore
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Indianapolis
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rogerskd
Do you still have this? Let me know either way. Thanks
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Did you even read anything, or did you just see Black Magic and post in here like an idiot? This is a thread where a guy was asking for help on his gun, and NOT trying to sell it. Plus you're not even allowed to sell guns in this section of the site.
If you want to buy somebodies gun look through these forums for the one you want and ask the person selling it
http://www.pbnation.com/forumdisplay.php?f=140
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12-19-2011, 12:08 PM
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#8
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Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: My Dojo
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Your cool.... I posted on the wrong thread. Your tough.
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12-21-2011, 06:21 AM
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secedere
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: FL/GA border
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I'll sell you my black magic for 459.95
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12-21-2011, 12:04 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: My Dojo
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I wasn't looking for one. I posted ond the wrong thread and didn't notice. Thanks though lol
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12-21-2011, 12:18 PM
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its an 11/16 valve
same as:
merlin, jole, sr, black magic, karnivore
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12-21-2011, 12:56 PM
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#12
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Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Guatemala (for real)
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JOLE's & Karni's use standard valve.
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12-21-2011, 01:11 PM
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Nvm. Was thinking the later Karnis did but apparently not
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12-21-2011, 02:59 PM
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wanabe gunwhore
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Indianapolis
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I didn't think Karni's used an 11/16 valve. I know Black Magics and JOLEs use them though. Also this is an old thread that was answered by the first reply lol
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12-21-2011, 03:01 PM
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Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Guatemala (for real)
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PBgateway can say whatever they please, doesn't change the fact it's a standard valve.

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