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Old 09-07-2011, 04:34 PM #1
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invasion sticky

alright guys... i mentioned a couple of months ago about rearranging things... now that the invasion has started its.... invasion, lets start putting its sticky together. all those questions that keep getting asked - put them here with the answers. clutter will be removed at some point. Go ahead and post up your invasion knowledge!

Brief Alien History - here so i don't lose this....

From Jack Rice.... "My son played young guns with a pivoting door gun (very short) that Duane Parsons and I developed. The way the air was routed gave it a very nice trajectory.

We started at Rich Telford's field (then Captain of Ironmen, now Captain of ESV) and he was very helpful in developing the guns. We introduced the Alien guns in 2005 and that year XSV's D1/Semi Pro team shot them and won a pro spot in PSP.

'05 &' 06 guns were Interceptors, '06 and '07 we had the Remains at the top of the lineup - still quite popular. In '08 we introduced the Independence. In '09 we made the most significant changes, if you have an '09 or later ND you know what Alien is."


Invasion Owner's Manual

The Invasion Manual can be found here.

Maintenance

Follow the maintenance schedule in the manual. No need to do anything when you get the gun - and do not lube the bolt. If you think it necessary then try some pb gun oil (pmi, kc-Trouble-free blue, or similar) on the bolt o-ring, or don't bother as you can easily get by without. Note that excessive bolt lube will get the lube in the breach, in your barrel - and on your paint which will negatively impact your paint's trajectory. Best to avoid imo and as stated, follow the maintenance instructions in the manual.

Invasion Features
  • 4-eye capable
  • Electronics: Hatred board
  • Lpr psi in the 70's
  • Detents: same as machine paintball's vapor, but spider/intimidator detents can be trimmed to fit
  • magnetic trigger return, 3-way adjustable
  • Hoseless -or - switch to youfavorite in-line reg
  • serviceable rammer
  • short, high-flow hardline connects lpr to ram housing
  • smc solenoid
  • Sweep valve and bolt
  • soft-touch bolt rubber insert - won't shoot-out
  • grips: custom alien panels
  • Marker Colors - bodies are a satin finish, accents are polished: (body color: accent color) Black:Green, Black:Burnt Orange, Platinum:Black (stormtrooper), "Classic" Black:Black
  • barrel colors: all barrels are black with colored tips: green, burnt orange and platinum
  • Barrel Kit Available (.689, .697, .695)
  • bodies are extruded, bores are then reamed and honed

Dip Switch Settings

Switch 1: Up = ROF at user setting
Down = ROF at default of 15 BPS
Switch 2: Up = Tournament Lock – no changes possible
Down = Programming Mod – changes can be made.

Board usually has DIP Switch 1 up, and Switch 2 Down.
The only reason to put 1 down is you want to quickly change to 15 BPS
The only reason to put 2 up is that a tournament is checking for guns to be locked

Weight

(As reviewed by WhiteFang upon receiving his invasion...)
Using a kitchen scale it weighs as follows:

1lb 14 oz without battery and without the barrel pieces
2lb 2.9 oz without battery but with barrel pieces (both)
2lb 4.5 oz with battery and both barrel pieces.

(The manual states weight of 1lb 6.9oz without battery and barrel pieces, so my scale could be a little off or something could have changed since the weight was taken?)
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Old 09-07-2011, 04:34 PM #2
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Hrmmm...... Well, as a reminder, if anyone has invasion info worthy of a sticky, as the thread title suggests.... Please feel free to donate the knowledge....
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Old 10-12-2011, 05:56 PM #5
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up.... i just added a bunch of stuff to the first post... looking for feedback and suggestions... remember this will be the new invasion sticky...
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Just wanted to make certain those are the barrel sizes... seems like .695 is way too big these days so I'm hoping .697 is a misprint (or both). I opted for the kit so I'll know soon enough

I think the Mayday sizes from a while back were perfect... .686, .689 and .692. I actually plan on using my CF MayDay from '08 on this new gun just b/c I love that kit. In recent times .692 is the biggest ID I've had to use (and I was overboring for "lumpy" paint).
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Old 10-14-2011, 12:15 AM #7
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Just wanted to make certain those are the barrel sizes... seems like .695 is way too big these days so I'm hoping .697 is a misprint (or both). I opted for the kit so I'll know soon enough

I think the Mayday sizes from a while back were perfect... .686, .689 and .692. I actually plan on using my CF MayDay from '08 on this new gun just b/c I love that kit. In recent times .692 is the biggest ID I've had to use (and I was overboring for "lumpy" paint).
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same idea, dust black with polished black parts will match with the polished black mayday kit.
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updated with weight maintenance sections....
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Old 10-24-2011, 01:37 AM #11
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are the Original Balldetents Impulse 09 Style?
the 4 eyes are Boblong? Marq or G6R Style?
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In the Manual they are looking diffrent to Timmy Style Detents. You Can use them, but you have to cut them

The Original ones look like IMP 09
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Incorrect info

The barrel kits at cup had the following bores....689 .687 .685. Stock is a .691 bore.
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any way i can safely take a dremil to the forgrip under the lpr? those corners hurt my hands.... any thing in there i would risk messing up?
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Worst thing that can happen is you take too much material off and create a hole, or perhaps create a thin/weak spot. Its a pressurized chamber, behaves like a volumizer. I cant imagine though what part would be uncomfortable? Are you talking about the rubber grip or the volumizer itself?
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yeah those sharp courners just under the lpr.
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i just got off the phone with the guy sending me my iinvasion and he sais that the ninja SLP works better on it than the hp reg... ive known jack to always say that a low pressure tank will starve the reg on the indy's, is it true that low pressure runs better on the invasions?
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yeah those sharp courners just under the lpr.
i'd leave that alone, especially the side with the plug. I'd just where a glove if I were you. no need to ruin resale and mar a good-looking gun IMO. but the risk is all yours....
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jack to always say that a low pressure tank will starve the reg on the indy's, is it true that low pressure runs better on the invasions?
SLP should work fine with Invasion - I question "better" but the Reg is in the bottle adapter, so the starving at high speeds that dual regs sometimes suffer from is lessened.
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