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Old 08-24-2011, 05:38 PM #1114
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Old 08-25-2011, 05:58 PM #1115
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I have been interested in purchasing a entry level SLR camera preferablly nikon or canon. I'am also interested in being a photographer for a criminal justice
I want something that shoots good motion pictures and has good clarity and apeture. Any suggestions on what type of camera would I should look for?
Price Range around $250-$325
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Old 08-25-2011, 06:05 PM #1116
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Honestly I think you need to do a bit more research before you jump in, saying you "want a camera with good aperture" means to me that you really don't know what you're looking for, as aperture is all in the lens. In that price range on the canon side of things though, I'd recommend a used 30D which can be had for between 250 and 300, it was my first camera and I learned a lot with it, it's a perfectly capable camera. Just remember though, the end result of your photo is 80% the lens you use, and those aren't cheap if you want reliability and good image quality, though for the price of $100 canon's 50mm f/1.8 lens is great image quality wise, but build quality is lacking. If anything, your camera should be your smaller investment, because it's the lenses that you'll be holding on to as you upgrade your cameras.
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Old 08-25-2011, 06:11 PM #1117
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Honestly I think you need to do a bit more research before you jump in, saying you "want a camera with good aperture" means to me that you really don't know what you're looking for, as aperture is all in the lens. In that price range on the canon side of things though, I'd recommend a used 30D which can be had for between 250 and 300, it was my first camera and I learned a lot with it, it's a perfectly capable camera. Just remember though, the end result of your photo is 80% the lens you use, and those aren't cheap if you want reliability and good image quality, though for the price of $100 canon's 50mm f/1.8 lens is great image quality wise, but build quality is lacking. If anything, your camera should be your smaller investment, because it's the lenses that you'll be holding on to as you upgrade your cameras.
Ya i didn't word some things right anyway made myself sound stupid lol and yes i don't know alot about photography and every bit of information will help! My desktop publishing professor was showing me his $7,000 setup today and it got me interested in tying photography into my major....which is criminal investigation! appreciate the help man
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Old 08-25-2011, 06:13 PM #1118
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Major in Criminal Investigation, minor in photography. That's what I've always been told when thinking about starting my own studio/photo business, major in business, minor in photography. Photography is something that's more dependant on a portfolio than a piece of paper.
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Old 08-25-2011, 06:14 PM #1119
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Realistically your going to need to save up more than $250 - $300 before you go and buy yourself a DSLR.
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Old 08-25-2011, 06:28 PM #1120
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Major in Criminal Investigation, minor in photography. That's what I've always been told when thinking about starting my own studio/photo business, major in business, minor in photography. Photography is something that's more dependant on a portfolio than a piece of paper.
good advice man ill keep that in mind i think im going to buy the canon 30D
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Old 08-25-2011, 06:30 PM #1121
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okay but I'm serious, don't cheap out on lenses.
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Old 08-25-2011, 06:58 PM #1122
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okay but I'm serious, don't cheap out on lenses.
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Old 08-25-2011, 07:52 PM #1123
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whats the difference in the black and grey lenses? i see a lot of the grey ones at pb games.

example:
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compared to
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not necesarily these 2 exact lenses im just curious what the main diference is in the 2 types of lenses.
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Old 08-25-2011, 08:04 PM #1124
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it's not quite grey, more of an off eggshell white. Canon's white lenses are their tele zooms in the L series, whereas black tele lenses are not L series. L series lenses can always be recognized by their red stripe, and normally these are the most expensive, top of the line lenses in canon's lineup.
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Old 08-25-2011, 08:11 PM #1125
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ok is there anything that separates the 2 as how they function or anything? or is it just a better made lens?
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Old 08-25-2011, 08:32 PM #1126
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between those 2 or L and non L in general? L lenses always have an Ultrasonic Motor Drive or USM that allows for fast, quiet, and internal autofocus, though some non L's also have them. The biggest difference is build quality, though.
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Old 08-25-2011, 09:27 PM #1127
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And optical performance, most people dont realize the extra work that goes into the actual glass on the L lenses, but IIRC some of the L series lines are still handground glass and have several coatings that prevent chromatic abberation, lens flair, and numerous other unsightly glass defects.
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Old 08-26-2011, 10:10 AM #1128
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ok, so I've been looking into buying a camera for quite a while now. I posted here probably over a month ago and since then I've changed my mind a bit.

My school doesn't have a good video/photography program and I've decided that since I no longer play sports I'd like to shoot for them in my senior year. I don't want an hd camcorder because I plan on doing yearbook work as well and they don't appeal to me as much as a dslr for video anyways.

Also I'm going to do paintball photography/video whenever I can, but I still end up playing every weekend so it probably won't see a lot of field time.

Since I've done all of the ground work, I think my best bet would be a used canon t1i body with a used canon 70-200 f4 is lens. I may also get a prime canon 50mm f1.8 lens because they're cheap and I may like to have a smaller lens in some alternate situations (vacations, family photos, etc.). This should bring me around $1000 when I factor in sd cards, batteries, and possibly a cheap tripod.

I shouldn't have trouble paying for it, but I don't think I want to go with anything more expensive because it will be my first dslr.

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Old 08-26-2011, 01:51 PM #1129
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the t1i sorta stinks because it locks in your exposures for video (all auto) but there are ways to get around that if you really need to.

So if you want photography + video on the cheap and a good lens for paintball and then a low light/DOF lens you've come to the right conclusion. Except you need to ditch the 70-200 f4 ...IS... It is around $900-1000 and for sports IS does nothing. If I were you I'd try to find a 70-200 2.8 for around 1,000. For daytime photos the 70-200 f4L (non-IS) is excellent and will be 400 cheaper than the IS model.
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Old 08-26-2011, 02:13 PM #1130
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In addition to what has been mentioned already, L lens are also considered weather proof/resistant, and all L series lens comes with a lens hood while non-L lens do not.

Get a decent body, but great glass.
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Old 08-26-2011, 02:21 PM #1131
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not all L lenses are weather sealed, there are actually quite a few that aren't.
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Old 08-27-2011, 03:39 PM #1132
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whats the difference in the black and grey lenses? i see a lot of the grey ones at pb games.

example:
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produc..._4_5_6_IS.html

compared to
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produc..._f_4L_USM.html

not necesarily these 2 exact lenses im just curious what the main diference is in the 2 types of lenses.
the grey ones prevents your lens from being shot during games

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Ya i didn't word some things right anyway made myself sound stupid lol and yes i don't know alot about photography and every bit of information will help! My desktop publishing professor was showing me his $7,000 setup today and it got me interested in tying photography into my major....which is criminal investigation! appreciate the help man
so the price tag for 7000 got you interested in photo...?
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I'm seeing a lot of "don't get the IS lens". Why is that?
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Old 08-28-2011, 12:22 AM #1134
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because you can save 200 some bucks by just holding your hand steadier/use a faster shutter speed/getting a tri/mono-pod. (is the dumb way of putting it)
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