Find fields & stores near you!
Find fields and stores
Zipcode
PbNation News
PbNation News
Community Focus
Community Focus

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 08-13-2011, 02:06 AM #85
licence_to_kill
Bizarro World
 
licence_to_kill's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: good ol' So Cal
licence_to_kill is reppin' sidebar 4 life
licence_to_kill has perfected Level 1 in PbNation Pursuit
licence_to_kill has perfected Level 2 in PbNation Pursuit
licence_to_kill has perfected Level 3 in PbNation Pursuit
licence_to_kill supports DLX Technology
Quote:
Originally Posted by AlphaNeo36 View Post
THEN TELL ME HOW MUCH GOLD WE HAVE AT FORT KNOX
that's right, you can't
1 MILLION GOLD MUNNIES
__________________
SAN DIEGO
CHARGERS

"Most Ron Paul supporters are domestic terrorists and racist liberal nazis." - John Elway
licence_to_kill is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Sponsored Links Remove Advertisement
Advertisement
Old 08-13-2011, 02:16 AM #86
barrel roll
secedere
 
barrel roll's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: FL/GA border
barrel roll is one of the top 500 posters on PbNation
barrel roll is Legendary
Quote:
Originally Posted by rnauman821

... Obama isn't touching the gun issue with a 20 foot pole. Hell the only reason ammo costs have gone up is because the NRA members of the world have increased demand because the perceived threat of shortages.
His departments are, wich means he is.
__________________
--- UNDRPRVLGD Goggle Straps n stuff ---
If this be treason, make the most of it.-Patrick Henry
I'm a damn veteran, I've got more rights and privileges than you do.
MQ2 rebuild kits, MP4 ram rebuilds, general 'cocker teching
Will soon be making super slick mid/half block bolts
barrel roll is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-13-2011, 02:20 AM #87
Pail Ail (Banned)
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Hayek is the coolest economist ever.

Pail Ail is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-13-2011, 03:26 AM #88
rnauman821
I Ring the Bell
 
rnauman821's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: 563
rnauman821 is a Supporting Member
 has been a member for 10 years
rnauman821 is Legendary
Quote:
Originally Posted by barrel roll View Post
His departments are, wich means he is.
... How has anyone been limited in gun purchases? I can still buy the same rifles, handguns, ammunition.
rnauman821 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-13-2011, 10:16 AM #89
Tuff
Supports 2nd Amendment
 
Tuff's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: NH
Tuff is a founding member
 has been a member for 10 years
Quote:
Originally Posted by licence_to_kill View Post
again, these people are crazy
No they're not, they're great. Newt Gingrich is fantastic. Don't let that silly California liberal media brainwash you - fight it!
__________________
IrishMafia
Proud American
Tuff is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-14-2011, 02:09 AM #90
$h@key J0nEZ
 
 
$h@key J0nEZ's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Newt takes career politician to a new level. We need someone who is truly conservative. Some old decrepit person who is too weak to spend a lot of money.
__________________
$h@key J0nEZ is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-14-2011, 02:58 PM #91
Frank101
legit legit legit
 
Frank101's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: NJ
Frank101 is a Supporting Member
 has been a member for 10 years
Frank101 is reppin' sidebar 4 life
Frank101 plays in the APPA D5 division
Quote:
Originally Posted by licence_to_kill View Post
im sorry the fact that anyone believes we need congressional oversight over the federal reserve is insane
The FED is counterfeiter of last resort. Besides, every time the congress spends more than the country takes in, the FED loans it out to them and to Congress knows this. It already has oversight in the sense they can get all the money they could ever want from the FED. Besides, RP's goal isn't for more congressional oversight of our FED but to dismantle it entirely and legalize Constitutional money (gold, silver) and allow for competing currencies by not taxing gains in value of gold and silver.

Get your facts right on a candidate before you start regurgitating what you think you know based on baseless claims by pundits.

Also, why shoudn't we as Americans know who and what the FED is lending OUR currency to? Why should we be subsidizing banks abroad when we have our own problems here? Why should we allow the FED to prop up failed or failing markets abroad and domestically? It only encourages lobbying and special interests at the expense of the individual with absolutely no power and less say in the matter.
__________________
"Originally posted by pokenose: We quit doing that secret Santa thing after the black guy got a bucket of fried chicken, watermelon jolly ranchers, a bottle of colt 45 and a cotton scented candle then someone else got a ball of that free twine you tie down your items with at ikea and a vibrator so you can go **** yourself if you didn't like the twine."

"Originally posted by AlphaNeo36:
Election fraud is perfectly acceptable when it intends to keep Ron Paul out of the White House."
Frank101 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-14-2011, 03:04 PM #92
licence_to_kill
Bizarro World
 
licence_to_kill's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: good ol' So Cal
licence_to_kill is reppin' sidebar 4 life
licence_to_kill has perfected Level 1 in PbNation Pursuit
licence_to_kill has perfected Level 2 in PbNation Pursuit
licence_to_kill has perfected Level 3 in PbNation Pursuit
licence_to_kill supports DLX Technology
Better question: why should we allow people who don't even begin to understand monetary theory oversight and blocking power over the most important financial institution in the world?
__________________
SAN DIEGO
CHARGERS

"Most Ron Paul supporters are domestic terrorists and racist liberal nazis." - John Elway
licence_to_kill is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-14-2011, 05:45 PM #93
Pail Ail (Banned)
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Quote:
Originally Posted by licence_to_kill View Post
Better question: why should we allow people who don't even begin to understand monetary theory oversight and blocking power over the most important financial institution in the world?
*Sillier question

Why is knowledge of monetary theory a better requisite for control over the most important financial institution in the world than knowledge of political economy, history of economic thought, EMH, public choice, experimental economics, history of banking, etc.?
Pail Ail is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-14-2011, 05:49 PM #94
licence_to_kill
Bizarro World
 
licence_to_kill's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: good ol' So Cal
licence_to_kill is reppin' sidebar 4 life
licence_to_kill has perfected Level 1 in PbNation Pursuit
licence_to_kill has perfected Level 2 in PbNation Pursuit
licence_to_kill has perfected Level 3 in PbNation Pursuit
licence_to_kill supports DLX Technology
Because the FED controls monetary policy.
__________________
SAN DIEGO
CHARGERS

"Most Ron Paul supporters are domestic terrorists and racist liberal nazis." - John Elway
licence_to_kill is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-14-2011, 05:52 PM #95
Pail Ail (Banned)
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Again, why would knowledge solely in monetary theory make one a better adviser at the fed than knowledge in any of those other sections of economic thought?
Pail Ail is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-14-2011, 05:54 PM #96
licence_to_kill
Bizarro World
 
licence_to_kill's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: good ol' So Cal
licence_to_kill is reppin' sidebar 4 life
licence_to_kill has perfected Level 1 in PbNation Pursuit
licence_to_kill has perfected Level 2 in PbNation Pursuit
licence_to_kill has perfected Level 3 in PbNation Pursuit
licence_to_kill supports DLX Technology
Quote:
Originally Posted by licence_to_kill View Post
Because the FED controls monetary policy.
.
__________________
SAN DIEGO
CHARGERS

"Most Ron Paul supporters are domestic terrorists and racist liberal nazis." - John Elway
licence_to_kill is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-14-2011, 05:57 PM #97
Pail Ail (Banned)
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Quote:
Originally Posted by licence_to_kill View Post
.
So Peter Diamond was a bad nomination now?
Pail Ail is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-14-2011, 06:01 PM #98
licence_to_kill
Bizarro World
 
licence_to_kill's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: good ol' So Cal
licence_to_kill is reppin' sidebar 4 life
licence_to_kill has perfected Level 1 in PbNation Pursuit
licence_to_kill has perfected Level 2 in PbNation Pursuit
licence_to_kill has perfected Level 3 in PbNation Pursuit
licence_to_kill supports DLX Technology
No, although thats a pretty good example of why congress should not be allowed oversight over the FED

just an aside, why would you include knowledge of EHM?
__________________
SAN DIEGO
CHARGERS

"Most Ron Paul supporters are domestic terrorists and racist liberal nazis." - John Elway

Last edited by licence_to_kill : 08-14-2011 at 06:03 PM.
licence_to_kill is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-14-2011, 06:25 PM #99
Pail Ail (Banned)
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Quote:
Originally Posted by licence_to_kill View Post
No, although thats a pretty good example of why congress should not be allowed oversight over the FED

just an aside, why would you include knowledge of EHM?
Just throwing it out there. Didn't want to exclude it for no real reason.

Also, if he was a good candidate, why? He doesn't have a large professional track record of writings on Federal Reserve macro-policy.
Pail Ail is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-14-2011, 06:33 PM #100
licence_to_kill
Bizarro World
 
licence_to_kill's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: good ol' So Cal
licence_to_kill is reppin' sidebar 4 life
licence_to_kill has perfected Level 1 in PbNation Pursuit
licence_to_kill has perfected Level 2 in PbNation Pursuit
licence_to_kill has perfected Level 3 in PbNation Pursuit
licence_to_kill supports DLX Technology
I think you're delving too deep into what I was saying. I was just pointing out that congress shouldn't be allowed to interfere with the FED because they don't understand economics.
__________________
SAN DIEGO
CHARGERS

"Most Ron Paul supporters are domestic terrorists and racist liberal nazis." - John Elway
licence_to_kill is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-14-2011, 06:43 PM #101
Pail Ail (Banned)
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
No, I'm not. You repeated the same answer twice to my question. According to your posts, knowledge in monetary theory is the #1 requirement for good federal reserve work, above all other types of econ theory. You said it yourself.

You're also assuming that congressman can't possibly read economics/have economic advisers who are professional economists....
Pail Ail is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-14-2011, 06:53 PM #102
licence_to_kill
Bizarro World
 
licence_to_kill's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: good ol' So Cal
licence_to_kill is reppin' sidebar 4 life
licence_to_kill has perfected Level 1 in PbNation Pursuit
licence_to_kill has perfected Level 2 in PbNation Pursuit
licence_to_kill has perfected Level 3 in PbNation Pursuit
licence_to_kill supports DLX Technology
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pail Ail View Post
You're also assuming that congressman can't possibly read economics/have economic advisers who are professional economists....
Yeah sorry, I don't have much faith in congress on this issue

__________________
SAN DIEGO
CHARGERS

"Most Ron Paul supporters are domestic terrorists and racist liberal nazis." - John Elway
licence_to_kill is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-14-2011, 06:57 PM #103
Pail Ail (Banned)
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Quote:
Originally Posted by licence_to_kill View Post
Yeah sorry, I don't have much faith in congress on this issue

But you have faith in a federal reserve that can do 2 QE's without really fixing the economy?

lol.

http://www.cato.org/pub_display.php?pub_id=12550
lrn2history
Pail Ail is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-14-2011, 06:59 PM #104
licence_to_kill
Bizarro World
 
licence_to_kill's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: good ol' So Cal
licence_to_kill is reppin' sidebar 4 life
licence_to_kill has perfected Level 1 in PbNation Pursuit
licence_to_kill has perfected Level 2 in PbNation Pursuit
licence_to_kill has perfected Level 3 in PbNation Pursuit
licence_to_kill supports DLX Technology
the full video is even funnier

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2NJnL...eature=related
__________________
SAN DIEGO
CHARGERS

"Most Ron Paul supporters are domestic terrorists and racist liberal nazis." - John Elway
licence_to_kill is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-15-2011, 12:17 AM #105
The Ralpst
 
 
The Ralpst's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Minneapolis, MN
 has been a member for 10 years
Quote:
Originally Posted by mnp8nt View Post
Percent of People Below Poverty Level in the Past 12 Months (111th Congress)
District 6 6.7%
District 1 10.8%
District 3 5.7%
District 4 12.8%
District 5 16.6%
District 7 11.7%
District 8 12.4%
Source: ACS 2005-2009

Not sure where your getting your data from. St. Cloud is no worse off then any of the other regional centers.

Edit:
US Census State & County QuickFacts- Minnesota
Persons below poverty level, percent, 2009
St. Cloud Area:
Benton County 12.2%
Stearns County 12.9%

Other Counties of Similar Sized Stastical Areas
St. Louis County 16.4%
Norman County 14.0%
Blue Earth County 17.5%
Crow Wing County 14.3%

Minnesota Average 10.9%

double edit:
Another source.

Ha I knew that statistic was BS. If your refering to the OSU report it is wrong and based on the 1990/2000 Census Data. Also if you are refering to city-data.com that site is less accurate then either the ACS or the Census Bureau. The St. Cloud area has a very little worse then (Minnesota) average poverty rate from 1990-2009 NOT double. </end rant>

I agree that Bachmann is a volatile leader.
You're right with your statistics, and I realized that I made an error by not quoting the right demographic in my original post. I had been basing my numbers on families with children from this article that I had originally read in the St. Cloud Times (you can't get the original link on their website anymore, but here's a copy below). I didn't get a chance to proofread my post and I messed it up. My apologies.

http://www.istockanalyst.com/article...icleid/4539957

Here's the most relevant quote:

"Sept. 29--New data released Tuesday by the U.S. Census Bureau show the struggling economy is pushing a growing number of St. Cloud families into poverty.

The American Community Survey estimates show 31.6 percent -- nearly one-third -- of St. Cloud families with related children under 18 years had an income below the poverty level in 2009.

That's substantially higher than the number of Minnesota families with children in poverty, 12 percent, and nearly double the national figure of 17 percent."

Also, beware lumping District 6 together. It is one of the most oddly-drawn districts I have ever seen. It includes St. Cloud, which is a fast-growing but poor area while simultaneously including the extremely wealth Western suburbs of the Twin Cities and the extremely wealthy Eastern suburbs like Stillwater, Dellwood, etc. Trying to interpret anything statistically meaningful for the district as a whole is an exercise in futility.
__________________
"Ask a Russian engineer to design you a shoe, and he'll give you something that looks like the box the shoe came in. Ask him to design something that will slaughter Germans, and he turns into Thomas ******* Edison." - Neal Stephenson

Trauma'dOlive DM6 w/ Predator eyes
The Ralpst is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools

Posting Rules
Forum Jump