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Old 08-12-2011, 01:03 PM #64
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I bet McCain is rolling in his soon to be grave that he ran four years earlier than he should have.
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Old 08-12-2011, 02:23 PM #65
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I bet McCain is rolling in his soon to be grave that he ran four years earlier than he should have.
Somebody had to run for the GOP in 2008, and no matter who it was they were going to lose. Better it be a RINO like McCain, than destroy a potential future winner in the GOP field.

Edit: I also think Herman Cain did a good job, but he makes a lot of Gaffs (like his comments about Muslims) that make me question his character.

Maybe it's because he is from the south though, and because he is generally a 'straight-talking' guy, who knows...
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Old 08-12-2011, 02:32 PM #66
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... They were all stepping all over themselves. I wouldn't vote for any of them sans paul.
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Old 08-12-2011, 04:02 PM #67
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http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-me...blican-debate/

regarding Bachmann:
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Old 08-12-2011, 04:34 PM #68
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I don't pay attention to these until the losers know their place and pack their bags. There are better things I can be doing to waste time than listen to these people vomit into the microphone.
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Old 08-12-2011, 07:47 PM #69
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It is a disgrace to this country that a ****wad such as Michelle Bachmann could ever seriously be considered for the highest office in this country.
why exactly do you say that? how about posting why you think that
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Old 08-12-2011, 07:53 PM #70
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Agree entirely. I found it odd she stated she was submissive to her husband because a woman should always be submissive to a man. What was that? I would have to look it up further, but it seems like she did indeed state that. I do like that she is adamantly against replacing our dollar with some bull**** foreign currency or any type of NAU currency for Canada, USA ad Mexico.

Bachmann: "We need to have profound compassion for people who are dealing with the very real issue of sexual dysfunction in their life and sexual identity disorders" So basically gays are damaged people with a disorder. OK that's her take, that's fine.
Meh, she's not horrible in my book, but certainly not my first choice. I agree with you that Gingrich showed leadership, and gave very specific things that needed to be done. He was the only person who didn't spend all night making talking points and pandering to the crowd....actually Ron Paul gave specifics too I suppose. Herman Cain gave specifics and was very direct, but his inexperience hurts him. I actually gave him a lot of credit for essentially admitting he didn't know certain things, but went and learned about them. I'd rather have a guy with some gaps on foreign policy who can surround himself with good people knowing he'll lead and make smart decisions as opposed to someone who may know more and makes poor ones.

I really don't think it should harm Herman Cain. It certainly didn't matter in regards to getting Obama elected.
that's awesome. between this and all the potential liberal suicides i think Bachmann will have my vote lol.
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Old 08-12-2011, 07:55 PM #71
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why exactly do you say that? how about posting why you think that
She is incredibly stupid.
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Old 08-12-2011, 09:29 PM #72
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i have to say that its a bit hard to take the candidates seriously when they want to balance the budget but then you get this.

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Bret Baier, asked the eight candidates on stage whether any of them would walk away from a “real spending cuts deal” that required one dollar in new tax revenue for every 10 dollars’ worth of reductions. To put this in perspective, Mr. Baier’s hypothetical deal, if it entailed rescinding the Bush-era tax cuts only on Americans earning more than $1 million annually, would yield something like $6 trillion in spending cuts
every single one raised their hand...
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Old 08-12-2011, 09:33 PM #73
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Do we want to take guesses on how many electoral votes Obama will win by?

Supposedly, Rick Perry is going to officially declare his presidential run tomorrow. I can't imagine this crazy person getting into office as well.
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Blake360: in highschool, my teacher's father worked for the CIA and she brought my class documents proving the Roswell crash was of extraterrestrial origin.

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Old 08-12-2011, 10:47 PM #75
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Thank GOD! A GOP candidate says that the FED had something to do with the recession, and it wasn't just the dems and Clinton. Newt Gingrich is making moves tonight
Unfortunately Ron let Newt steal his thunder on that one. Ron has been adamantly against the FED, introducing audit bills yearly for quite some time and even descried the dangers of central planning long before then.

Then Michelle stole the Tea Party thunder, even though Paul started it in 2008. She has nerve to claim she was votes according to the Constitution when Paul has been literally deciding how to vote based on the Constitutionality of legislation. I really wished he called them both out on that because he has the integrity and voting record to prove it.
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Old 08-12-2011, 11:31 PM #76
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Speaking as someone who lives in her district, she is a terrible candidate for the presidency. Her ideological zealotry is so pure that she often refuses to take actions that would benefit her own constituents, just because they don't mesh with her very right-wing and narrow world view. This has compunded the fact that the St. Cloud area has one of the highest poverty rates in the state (more than double the state average).

One of the only reasons she continues to get elected is because her district spans from the extremely wealthy western Minneapolis suburbs to the extremely catholic St. Cloud area, making her fundamentalist religious and low-tax positions appealing.

She does little to nothing for the non-religious or the non-wealthy in her district, and I get to see the effects of it literally every day.
Percent of People Below Poverty Level in the Past 12 Months (111th Congress)
District 6 6.7%
District 1 10.8%
District 3 5.7%
District 4 12.8%
District 5 16.6%
District 7 11.7%
District 8 12.4%
Source: ACS 2005-2009

Not sure where your getting your data from. St. Cloud is no worse off then any of the other regional centers.

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Persons below poverty level, percent, 2009
St. Cloud Area:
Benton County 12.2%
Stearns County 12.9%

Other Counties of Similar Sized Stastical Areas
St. Louis County 16.4%
Norman County 14.0%
Blue Earth County 17.5%
Crow Wing County 14.3%

Minnesota Average 10.9%

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Another source.

Ha I knew that statistic was BS. If your refering to the OSU report it is wrong and based on the 1990/2000 Census Data. Also if you are refering to city-data.com that site is less accurate then either the ACS or the Census Bureau. The St. Cloud area has a very little worse then (Minnesota) average poverty rate from 1990-2009 NOT double. </end rant>

I agree that Bachmann is a volatile leader.
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Old 08-12-2011, 11:54 PM #77
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You guys are nuts. I'd rather have Bachman than Obama. If we are going to have another zombie in office we might as well have one that won't try to take our guns via executive order.
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Unfortunately Ron let Newt steal his thunder on that one. Ron has been adamantly against the FED, introducing audit bills yearly for quite some time and even descried the dangers of central planning long before then.

Then Michelle stole the Tea Party thunder, even though Paul started it in 2008. She has nerve to claim she was votes according to the Constitution when Paul has been literally deciding how to vote based on the Constitutionality of legislation. I really wished he called them both out on that because he has the integrity and voting record to prove it.
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You guys are nuts. I'd rather have Bachman than Obama. If we are going to have another zombie in office we might as well have one that won't try to take our guns via executive order.
... Obama isn't touching the gun issue with a 20 foot pole. Hell the only reason ammo costs have gone up is because the NRA members of the world have increased demand because the perceived threat of shortages.
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so much crazy
The only thing crazy here is your attempt to marginalize what's going on with your worthless post. Why even bother posting that comment at all?
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The only thing crazy here is your attempt to marginalize what's going on with your worthless post. Why even bother posting that comment at all?
im sorry the fact that anyone believes we need congressional oversight over the federal reserve is insane
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THEN TELL ME HOW MUCH GOLD WE HAVE AT FORT KNOX
that's right, you can't
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im sorry the fact that anyone believes we need congressional oversight over the federal reserve is insane
Depending on how you define congressional oversight, you just called loads of econ nobel winners insane...
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