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Old 07-31-2011, 04:15 PM #1
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Would this bolt idea work?



Ok I came up with this design to figure out a way to eliminate kick. It utilizes two solenoids to shoot the gun causing the bolt guide and the bolt to move in separate directions to eliminate kick all together. Air fills the chamber through solenoid 1 with another air path taking air to solenoid 2. When the marker is in the idle position the bolt guide is pushed into the bolt shutting off the air to the bolt. When the solenoids are activated the bolt and bolt guide move in opposite directions to break the seal causing air to be released from the firing chamber. Immediately after the seal is broken the bolt and bolt guide move towards each other resealing the firing chamber.

I have no idea if this would actually work practically. Any ideas on how efficient it would be? I know it would need more battery power, but i would think a rechargeable battery could help solve the problem. Please give me you suggestions. I did base the design of the bolt and firing chamber off of the geo.

sorry my drawing skills suck...i don't know how to use cad
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Old 07-31-2011, 06:20 PM #2
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It's sorts pmr spoolish with a dp dump valve.

But where is the bolt in the first pic exactly? It seems to appear out thin air.
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Old 07-31-2011, 06:25 PM #3
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its inside the can...it's my poor drawing skills...sorry
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Old 07-31-2011, 06:33 PM #4
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Ok, it seems like your trying to move the prop shaft back at the same time as trying to move the bolt the opposite direction (forward) so it can bump?

The fuse bolt is very similar and would be more efficient/faster because it only uses 1 noid. Same can be said vs the Ion bolt.
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Old 07-31-2011, 06:47 PM #5
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the dye fuse bolt? and yeah the prop shaft and bolt move in opposite directions. what's the vs ion bolt?

how much would a second noid take away from efficiency/slow the marker down?

would it also be possible to vent one of the solenoids back into the firing chamber?
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Old 08-01-2011, 08:36 AM #6
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i like the idea, but i feel like you could accomplish the same functionality with one noid and either a metering valve or changing surface area of the bolt / guide. would be a lot simpler to make and control, probably cheaper as well.
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Old 08-01-2011, 10:30 AM #7
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i like the idea, but i feel like you could accomplish the same functionality with one noid and either a metering valve or changing surface area of the bolt / guide. would be a lot simpler to make and control, probably cheaper as well.
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Old 08-01-2011, 08:05 PM #8
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looks almost identical to yoda's system.
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Old 08-01-2011, 11:12 PM #9
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how did yoda's system work?
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Old 08-01-2011, 11:32 PM #10
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find a thread here first page started by yoda900
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