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Old 07-13-2011, 12:10 AM #1
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My eyes have stopped working.

I got done with a session on Saturday, and today the eyes in my gun don't work. This is the first problem I have had with my creed. I was out for about 5 hours Saturday and being a guy who takes good care of his stuff I inspect my gun, clean, and take the battery out to store my gun. Took it out today to test fire the creed with a new hopper and the eyes don't work at all. I pull the trigger and an ! appears. Does anyone know what's wrong?
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Old 07-13-2011, 12:16 AM #2
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Unplug the battery for 15 min then see what happens..also,make sure the eyes are in properly, on time I didn't have them just right and I had the sane thing
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Old 07-13-2011, 12:52 AM #3
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Up your eye sensitivity to 13ms.
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Old 07-13-2011, 02:34 AM #4
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So I tried both of these things and I thought that it had fixed it. When I turned the marker back on it seemed normal, until I pulled the trigger when the eyes detected something in the breach. It did the same thing as before hald circle with a !. Then I pull the trigger again and I get the red circle back and there is a small ! in the top right corner.
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Old 07-13-2011, 07:40 AM #5
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Post up your board settings.
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Old 07-13-2011, 07:57 AM #6
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How are you testing this? With your finger or paint?
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Old 07-13-2011, 02:00 PM #7
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Yup, you can't test the eyes with your fingers, if that's what you're doing. The board will fault out and turn the eyes off automatically.

The eyes need to see an empty breech after each shot so they know when the next ball has dropped. If you use your fingers, the eyes wont' see the empty breech fast enough and fault out.
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Old 07-14-2011, 06:32 PM #8
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You can also try the basics first...cleaning the eyes and the holes in the breach where the eyes are located. Sometimes you get debris in there and it causes a fault. Eye faults are generally simple to correct. I wouldn't worry much. I'd clean first, make sure the eye wires are plugged in completely, then start worrying about the settings etc. Start simple.
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Old 08-12-2011, 10:52 PM #9
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I am running into the same issue that the OP is, tried everything stated here and whenever i turn the marker on it still says that there is a ball in the breech (or something) and i get the same ! as the OP does.
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Old 08-12-2011, 11:41 PM #10
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mine randomlly did this for some reason...i just realined the eyes. It can be tricky getting the eyes/spring/detent in the right place while tightening the eye cover down. make sure as you put the eye cover on that the eye doesnt move out of place.
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Old 08-13-2011, 12:57 AM #11
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You can up your eye sensitivity to 12ms.
Our eyes are realy sensitive.
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Old 08-13-2011, 03:48 AM #12
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it does this up until 18ms, at 19 and 20ms the eyes finally dont detect anything in the breech... ever. Time for new eyes?
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Old 08-13-2011, 08:49 AM #13
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Sounds like it.
you can find new ones at www.vanguardus.com
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Old 08-13-2011, 12:05 PM #14
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fixed the eyes, turns out someone had a play date with the leads. Someone soldered the return lead of one of the eyes to the return lead of the solenoid.
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Old 08-15-2011, 01:26 PM #15
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LOL nice! Never solder and drink at the same time people!
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