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Old 02-18-2011, 03:42 PM #22
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Old 02-18-2011, 03:45 PM #23
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Joe Rogan is taking a series of facts, and giving his opinion on each of these facts. These facts and opinions, when compiled together, form an idea about the state of the USA and the world. How you interpret said facts are your own opinions.

Do some research for yourself, as opposed to being spoon fed second-hand knowledge, and being told what to think by the television you watch every day.

I posted this video because Joe does a good job of summarizing the opinions held by many. Sitting around calling each other ignorant is the same level of stupidity that got us humans into the state we find ourselves in now. People need to start being more skeptical, open minded, rational and logical. Like he says at the beginning of the video, one of the main issues is that there's so many DUMB PEOPLE.
I don't think I said ignorant in any of my posts about him if I did I didn't intend too. Most of his facts are just spun so far out of control and some just aren't true. The US at one point was burning all poppy fields they came across but this caused so many problems with the local farmers they stopped. The whole point of many of the operations throughout Afghanistan are to build roads so the farmers are able to sell their crops and not grow poppy or MJ because they only do it because they are forced to by different organizations, the one's we happen to be fighting against. I agree with some of what he said, like the fact that most of our government is meant to help a small group of people but alot of what he said was just so completely wrong and that it cancelled out his good info.
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Old 02-18-2011, 04:22 PM #27
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he is basically right.
the american government has always been in it for the money.
do you honestly believe the US couldn't just anhillate north vietnam and afghanistan if they wanted to?

plus 9/11 was caused by us. it was a false flag attack working with al quida.
thats how i see it
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Joe Rogan = Douche before the video.
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He should keep his political opinions to himself and host that ****ty TV show.
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Old 02-18-2011, 05:28 PM #29
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My fellow Americans:

Three days from now, after half a century in the service of our country, I shall lay down the responsibilities of office as, in traditional and solemn ceremony, the authority of the Presidency is vested in my successor.

This evening I come to you with a message of leave-taking and farewell, and to share a few final thoughts with you, my countrymen.

Like every other citizen, I wish the new President, and all who will labor with him, Godspeed. I pray that the coming years will be blessed with peace and prosperity for all.

Our people expect their President and the Congress to find essential agreement on issues of great moment, the wise resolution of which will better shape the future of the Nation.

My own relations with the Congress, which began on a remote and tenuous basis when, long ago, a member of the Senate appointed me to West Point, have since ranged to the intimate during the war and immediate post-war period, and, finally, to the mutually interdependent during these past eight years.

In this final relationship, the Congress and the Administration have, on most vital issues, cooperated well, to serve the national good rather than mere partisanship, and so have assured that the business of the Nation should go forward. So, my official relationship with the Congress ends in a feeling, on my part, of gratitude that we have been able to do so much together.

II.

We now stand ten years past the midpoint of a century that has witnessed four major wars among great nations. Three of these involved our own country. Despite these holocausts America is today the strongest, the most influential and most productive nation in the world. Understandably proud of this pre-eminence, we yet realize that America's leadership and prestige depend, not merely upon our unmatched material progress, riches and military strength, but on how we use our power in the interests of world peace and human betterment.

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Throughout America's adventure in free government, our basic purposes have been to keep the peace; to foster progress in human achievement, and to enhance liberty, dignity and integrity among people and among nations. To strive for less would be unworthy of a free and religious people. Any failure traceable to arrogance, or our lack of comprehension or readiness to sacrifice would inflict upon us grievous hurt both at home and abroad.

Progress toward these noble goals is persistently threatened by the conflict now engulfing the world. It commands our whole attention, absorbs our very beings. We face a hostile ideology -- global in scope, atheistic in character, ruthless in purpose, and insidious in method. Unhappily the danger is poses promises to be of indefinite duration. To meet it successfully, there is called for, not so much the emotional and transitory sacrifices of crisis, but rather those which enable us to carry forward steadily, surely, and without complaint the burdens of a prolonged and complex struggle -- with liberty the stake. Only thus shall we remain, despite every provocation, on our charted course toward permanent peace and human betterment.

Crises there will continue to be. In meeting them, whether foreign or domestic, great or small, there is a recurring temptation to feel that some spectacular and costly action could become the miraculous solution to all current difficulties. A huge increase in newer elements of our defense; development of unrealistic programs to cure every ill in agriculture; a dramatic expansion in basic and applied research -- these and many other possibilities, each possibly promising in itself, may be suggested as the only way to the road we wish to travel.

But each proposal must be weighed in the light of a broader consideration: the need to maintain balance in and among national programs -- balance between the private and the public economy, balance between cost and hoped for advantage -- balance between the clearly necessary and the comfortably desirable; balance between our essential requirements as a nation and the duties imposed by the nation upon the individual; balance between actions of the moment and the national welfare of the future. Good judgment seeks balance and progress; lack of it eventually finds imbalance and frustration.

The record of many decades stands as proof that our people and their government have, in the main, understood these truths and have responded to them well, in the face of stress and threat. But threats, new in kind or degree, constantly arise. I mention two only.

IV.

A vital element in keeping the peace is our military establishment. Our arms must be mighty, ready for instant action, so that no potential aggressor may be tempted to risk his own destruction.

Our military organization today bears little relation to that known by any of my predecessors in peacetime, or indeed by the fighting men of World War II or Korea.

Until the latest of our world conflicts, the United States had no armaments industry. American makers of plowshares could, with time and as required, make swords as well. But now we can no longer risk emergency improvisation of national defense; we have been compelled to create a permanent armaments industry of vast proportions. Added to this, three and a half million men and women are directly engaged in the defense establishment. We annually spend on military security more than the net income of all United States corporations.

This conjunction of an immense military establishment and a large arms industry is new in the American experience. The total influence -- economic, political, even spiritual -- is felt in every city, every State house, every office of the Federal government. We recognize the imperative need for this development. Yet we must not fail to comprehend its grave implications. Our toil, resources and livelihood are all involved; so is the very structure of our society.

In the councils of government, we must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the militaryindustrial complex. The potential for the disastrous rise of misplaced power exists and will persist.

We must never let the weight of this combination endanger our liberties or democratic processes. We should take nothing for granted. Only an alert and knowledgeable citizenry can compel the proper meshing of the huge industrial and military machinery of defense with our peaceful methods and goals, so that security and liberty may prosper together.

Akin to, and largely responsible for the sweeping changes in our industrial-military posture, has been the technological revolution during recent decades.

In this revolution, research has become central; it also becomes more formalized, complex, and costly. A steadily increasing share is conducted for, by, or at the direction of, the Federal government.

Today, the solitary inventor, tinkering in his shop, has been overshadowed by task forces of scientists in laboratories and testing fields. In the same fashion, the free university, historically the fountainhead of free ideas and scientific discovery, has experienced a revolution in the conduct of research. Partly because of the huge costs involved, a government contract becomes virtually a substitute for intellectual curiosity. For every old blackboard there are now hundreds of new electronic computers.

The prospect of domination of the nation's scholars by Federal employment, project allocations, and the power of money is ever present

and is gravely to be regarded.
Yet, in holding scientific research and discovery in respect, as we should, we must also be alert to the equal and opposite danger that public policy could itself become the captive of a scientifictechnological elite.

It is the task of statesmanship to mold, to balance, and to integrate these and other forces, new and old, within the principles of our democratic system -- ever aiming toward the supreme goals of our free society.

V.

Another factor in maintaining balance involves the element of time. As we peer into society's future, we -- you and I, and our government -- must avoid the impulse to live only for today, plundering, for our own ease and convenience, the precious resources of tomorrow. We cannot mortgage the material assets of our grandchildren without risking the loss also of their political and spiritual heritage. We want democracy to survive for all generations to come, not to become the insolvent phantom of tomorrow.

VI.

Down the long lane of the history yet to be written America knows that this world of ours, ever growing smaller, must avoid becoming a community of dreadful fear and hate, and be instead, a proud confederation of mutual trust and respect.

Such a confederation must be one of equals. The weakest must come to the conference table with the same confidence as do we, protected as we are by our moral, economic, and military strength. That table, though scarred by many past frustrations, cannot be abandoned for the certain agony of the battlefield.

Disarmament, with mutual honor and confidence, is a continuing imperative. Together we must learn how to compose differences, not with arms, but with intellect and decent purpose. Because this need is so sharp and apparent I confess that I lay down my official responsibilities in this field with a definite sense of disappointment. As one who has witnessed the horror and the lingering sadness of war -- as one who knows that another war could utterly destroy this civilization which has been so slowly and painfully built over thousands of years -- I wish I could say tonight that a lasting peace is in sight.
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Old 02-18-2011, 05:29 PM #30
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anyone who doesn't agree is in the stupid group joe is referring to.
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Also, if you don't believe the United States is willing to sacrifice its own people for the sake of corporations making money, take a look at the Spanish-American war.

Look up a ship called the USS Maine. Read a book called "A People's History of the United States."

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Made it 0:30 in and realized he had nothing new or profound to say.
No one ever does. It's just about getting the word out there.
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Also, if you don't believe the United States is willing to sacrifice its own people for the sake of corporations making money, take a look at the Spanish-American war.

Look up a ship called the USS Maine. Read a book called "A People's History of the United States."



No one ever does. It's just about getting the word out there.
what? the USS Main? i have never heard of this, not even when i took US History during high school. I have no clue as to what this USS Main is and why it blew up. fact of the matter is, war is always fought over the prospect of gaining something. war is nothing new, its not going to end and just hope you are on the winning side. what ever you want to say is right or wrong is completely subjective. but regardless, why fight a war if you are not going to get anything out of it. if you honestly believe if other countries were in our shoes and wouldn't do it, you need to look over the situation again.
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Once again, nothing new or ground breaking is being presented. Geeze, what else did I expect?
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Also, if you don't believe the United States is willing to sacrifice its own people for the sake of corporations making money, take a look at the Spanish-American war.

Look up a ship called the USS Maine. Read a book called "A People's History of the United States."



No one ever does. It's just about getting the word out there.
1. Times have changed.
2. Obtaining wealth and broadening the scope of the government is everything now.
3. I know about the USS Maine because I was in a real history class.
4. People still say things that are profound, just more than likely not on youtube nor from "celebrities"
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what? the USS Main? i have never heard of this, not even when i took US History during high school. I have no clue as to what this USS Main is and why it blew up. fact of the matter is, war is always fought over the prospect of gaining something. war is nothing new, its not going to end and just hope you are on the winning side. what ever you want to say is right or wrong is completely subjective. but regardless, why fight a war if you are not going to get anything out of it. if you honestly believe if other countries were in our shoes and wouldn't do it, you need to look over the situation again.

The thing is though, we didn't get anything out of it. The wealthy elite in charge of Standard Oil, J.P. Morgan, etc gained. Same thing goes on today. Same thing is going to continue to go on. Apathy always wins.

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1. Times have changed.
2. Obtaining wealth and broadening the scope of the government is everything now.
3. I know about the USS Maine because I was in a real history class.
4. People still say things that are profound, just more than likely not on youtube nor from "celebrities"
I'm glad that Joe Rogan said this stuff. He's not the original author of these ideas, but because of his fame, people might actually take notice of what he has to say.
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Joe Rogan = Douche before the video.
Joe Rogan = Stupid douche after the video.

He should keep his political opinions to himself and host that ****ty TV show.
i have identified a stupid person.
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But on a srs note, once America gains class consciousness , then we can join together to make a difference. Right now we are all to ignorant and stupid to unite and the government knows it and uses this against us.
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People are more concerned with hating the police than they are about hating the people in office. Sad world.
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