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Old 05-17-2010, 03:52 PM #1
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Gridding out the field

I have been spray painting lines on my field about every other weekend to get a nice grid field. This is starting to add up real fast. I was at a ball game last night and i noticed those flags they use to put on teh field to mark the unused bases. has anyone every used those to mark out there field? if so where did you get them, did you put the steel pipe in the ground?
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Old 05-17-2010, 04:39 PM #2
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I use plastic ground stakes on my sidelines to give me a point of reference. They're spaced out to match the gridding on the PSP fields. I found the stakes at the local Menards and was able to get two different colors. I have a yellow stake every 30 feet and orange stakes every 10 feet between those on the sidelines. I then put a yellow rope through them to mark the boundaries and to make it easier to see the stakes. It's not necessary to put the stakes along the ends of the fields, just the sidelines.

When it comes time to grid the field, we use a couple of 200' tape measures and some marking paint to mark where the bunkers go. We don't mark out the grids, just the bunker locations. This only takes two cans of paint and about 45 minutes of work for two people.

When we mark out where the bunkers go, we just mark the reference points on the grid. We have a sort of shorthand that we use to show orientation of the bunkers. The shorthand is comprised of four symbols (T, L, +, and <). The first three symbols show the intersections of the grid lines and where the bunker should go. If it's a T, the bunker straddles the vertical leg of the T. If it's an L, a corner of the bunker goes in the intersection of the L. If it's a +, the bunker sits on top of the plus. The < is used to show where to put a corner of a dorito. The dead center of the field is usually marked with an X.

It's a simple system and it's something I can explain in about 5 minutes to anyone setting up the field. Including labor and paint, the cost is about $30 each time we have to mark out the layout.
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Old 05-18-2010, 10:36 AM #3
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Madcow paintball in Nebraska had little plastic marker thingys (I have no idea what they are called. And I googled alot of different things and I couldnt find them) Theres alot of pics from the last Vicious event that was there on Pennerpics.com. Thats the only place I could find pics of the markers.



I would guess that you would have to remove them everytime you mow but it would be a one time investment. They had the markers all over the field and you dont even notice them if you dive or slide on them.
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Old 05-18-2010, 11:58 AM #4
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We use flush ground stakes every 10 feet. The spikes are fairly cheap (the cheaper ones on this site), lawn mower does not hit them and they have lasted awhile.

http://www.usspecialtycoatings.com/g...kers.aspx#Page

We always striped the entire field in the past, in 2 directions. We were using a case of paint/month. I like the idea of just marking where the bunkers are -- we are going to try this. One advantage of the stripes is we can redesign the field layout very quickly and perfectly accurately. Personally I hate playing on a field that is askew -- screws up the angles.
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Old 05-18-2010, 08:09 PM #5
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Madcow paintball in Nebraska had little plastic marker thingys (I have no idea what they are called. And I googled alot of different things and I couldnt find them) Theres alot of pics from the last Vicious event that was there on Pennerpics.com. Thats the only place I could find pics of the markers.



I would guess that you would have to remove them everytime you mow but it would be a one time investment. They had the markers all over the field and you dont even notice them if you dive or slide on them.
You don't have to move the markers you can mow right over them and it just cuts the plastic bristles flush with the grass.
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Old 05-20-2010, 07:06 PM #6
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I have heard of using some sort of weed killer for making the stripes. Sounds like a good idea if you can keep from wiping out your entire field. Its always there and you don't have to repaint or worry about running over with the mower.
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Old 05-20-2010, 07:50 PM #7
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Madcow paintball in Nebraska had little plastic marker thingys (I have no idea what they are called. And I googled alot of different things and I couldnt find them) Theres alot of pics from the last Vicious event that was there on Pennerpics.com. Thats the only place I could find pics of the markers.



I would guess that you would have to remove them everytime you mow but it would be a one time investment. They had the markers all over the field and you dont even notice them if you dive or slide on them.

yea Tim those things was nice, MPG has them also. but those things the guy after you posted is nice too especially how you can tie a string from one to another
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Old 05-20-2010, 10:46 PM #8
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I have heard of using some sort of weed killer for making the stripes. Sounds like a good idea if you can keep from wiping out your entire field. Its always there and you don't have to repaint or worry about running over with the mower.
On that note a propane torch, you could just burn the perimeter and some reference lines then fill with paint, or just burn the whole thing.
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Old 05-22-2010, 04:42 PM #9
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On that note a propane torch, you could just burn the perimeter and some reference lines then fill with paint, or just burn the whole thing.
There ya go.
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Old 05-22-2010, 11:26 PM #10
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You can also just mark/dot the INTERSECTIONS instead of whole lines.

Mark out every 10 feet along the length of the field on each sideline (plus the midpoint of the sideline). Take a 140' rope and run it side-to-side, and measure out every 12.5 feet (10' for the first and last intervals for 120' wide PSP layouts) and spray a dot each 10 feet. Then take the rope and move it up the field 10', spray each dot again (don't have to measure this time as the rope is now painted from the first cross-line.) Repeat 15 more times and you have a grid.


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Old 05-23-2010, 10:13 AM #11
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You can also just mark/dot the INTERSECTIONS instead of whole lines.

Mark out every 10 feet along the length of the field on each sideline (plus the midpoint of the sideline). Take a 140' rope and run it side-to-side, and measure out every 12.5 feet (10' for the first and last intervals for 120' wide PSP layouts) and spray a dot each 10 feet. Then take the rope and move it up the field 10', spray each dot again (don't have to measure this time as the rope is now painted from the first cross-line.) Repeat 15 more times and you have a grid.


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More along this mentality in maintaining a perfect grid that never changes, versus bunker locations that change per layout.

We had plastic stakes along the sidelines marking each grid line (12.5' & 10') and then after the grass is cut, it is very easy to run a rope between the stakes on either side and paint the intersections. Ensures there is always a grid on the field (usually only has to be done when changing layouts, but once the initial sidelines are squared off, it only takes 15-20min to completely re-grid the entire field.
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Old 05-31-2010, 11:51 AM #12
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We grid the field almost every weekend, and do exactly what Raehl recommended. Doesn't use much paint, and we finish pretty quickly.
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We used T-Posts driven into the ground all the way around the field (NPPL Regulation size) at the corners across both backs and down the sidelines all were covered with 10' tall 2.5" white pvc. Everything was gridded out using this system. The inital cost was quickly negated in the time savings (employee costs) of laying out the field correctly the first time.
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Old 02-18-2011, 04:16 PM #14
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Madcow paintball in Nebraska had little plastic marker thingys (I have no idea what they are called. And I googled alot of different things and I couldnt find them) Theres alot of pics from the last Vicious event that was there on Pennerpics.com. Thats the only place I could find pics of the markers.



I would guess that you would have to remove them everytime you mow but it would be a one time investment. They had the markers all over the field and you dont even notice them if you dive or slide on them.
Here's a link to those markers. They're called marking whiskers.
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Old 02-18-2011, 04:51 PM #15
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Old 03-13-2011, 02:27 PM #16
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The field i used to work at we just measured along the sides and used flourescent yellow string..then after we set all the bunkers up we pulled the string out..so a stake every 10 feet or whatever on each side then a string to connect them..worked out good idk there are probably better ways.
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Excuse a random comment here, but the mention of weed killer reminded me of one of the greatest pranks I've ever seen that might actually be useful for you guys.

I don't know the back story, but someone apparently got really irked at a homeowner I once drove by. The target had a very large lawn sloping down to the street , and someone had apparently used a fertilizer spreader to write a terse description of the resident using some sort of high potency fertilizer in 10' letters.

I saw it in late summer, and the dark green letters were still very readable. :lol:

Are your fields lines permanent enough to try that approach?
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The marking whiskers that (as everyone has stated) are in my opinion one of the better ways of marking out the field.

The best way I've seen this done was my local field had a surveyor come out and actually grid the field out with his surveying equipment. Sure this was probably expensive, but in my view it is the the best way to insure that a field is gridded correctly. I mean, using the best technology available to grid the field/intersections is always a win over human error in my book
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Marking Whiskers are the best, you can get 200 of them things for like $50 and they last forever and perfect to grid out a whole field.
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I just bought a box of 500 whiskers, brand new off ebay for like $40.00. Then home depot for the nails to stake them down at .08 a piece.
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We use the plastic lids you would get off of a peanut can. I'm not sure how to describe them other than the those plastic yellow planters lids. They are spaced every 10 feet around the field. To hold the in place we use 5 inch nails I believe. The to grid we run up and down then across the field. Surprisingly the lids have stayed in place for a couple months now. The rec players hardly notice them and when you step on them you can't even tell they are there.
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