[EPAPressure]

looks like a 7.62 mag

Either way I'm sure he's watched magpul vids enough to know how to use it

[UNDRPRVLGD_V2]

Lmao

[Tafari Makonnen]

The picture says 5.56mm, and I do not believe there are any .308 Cmags.

[kida2]

Two different rifles, the bottom is 5.56 and the top 7.62 (I assume).

[UNDRPRVLGD_V2]

Originally Posted by kida2

Two different rifles, the bottom is 5.56 and the top 7.62 (I assume).

Totally fobbet **** right there

[UNDRPRVLGD_V2]

Im not to versed in what Kel-Tec makes, besides AK's but this looks promising

http://www.facebook.com/#!/photo.php...3.144324478418

[barrel roll]

Keltech makes some fun stuff. Their collapsible .223 rifle is fun. Their collapsible 9mm carbine is fun too. Perfect size for throwing in your backpack.

[kida2]

Originally Posted by UNDRPRVLGD_V2

Im not to versed in what Kel-Tec makes, besides AK's but this looks promising

http://www.facebook.com/#!/photo.php...3.144324478418

That thing is totally BA.

[Tafari Makonnen]

Originally Posted by UNDRPRVLGD_V2

Im not to versed in what Kel-Tec makes, besides AK's but this looks promising

http://www.facebook.com/#!/photo.php...3.144324478418

They don't make AKs.

[EPAPressure]

Originally Posted by UNDRPRVLGD_V2

Im not to versed in what Kel-Tec makes, besides AK's but this looks promising

http://www.facebook.com/#!/photo.php...3.144324478418

Nerf gun that shoots 12 guage? For 800 bucks I'd just get a Saiga 12, 20 round drum, and a **** load of ammo.

But yeah those do look like a lot of fun

[UNDRPRVLGD_V2]

Originally Posted by Tafari Makonnen

They don't make AKs.

Thought they did, must have them confused

[Tafari Makonnen]

Originally Posted by EPAPressure

Nerf gun that shoots 12 guage? For 800 bucks I'd just get a Saiga 12, 20 round drum, and a **** load of ammo.

But yeah those do look like a lot of fun

$800 MSRP. Dealer cost is around $530. It is a dual tube bull pup shotgun that holds 14 rounds and has an overall length of 24" without a tax stamp. You are not getting a saiga that small for anywhere near that money, and your going to have a stupid short barrel.

[UNDRPRVLGD_V2]

Originally Posted by Tafari Makonnen

$800 MSRP. Dealer cost is around $530. It is a dual tube bull pup shotgun that holds 14 rounds and has an overall length of 24" without a tax stamp. You are not getting a saiga that small for anywhere near that money, and your going to have a stupid short barrel.

I think thats pretty reasonable price

[Orvis09]

I went to the range today

Rented an AR15 since mine is broken, and it was good to get familiar with the iron sights. Shot 60 rounds through it, and none were out of the 8 ring, so I was pretty happy about that. Also shot my .30-06 and my new 12 gauge, HOLY **** that thing is a menace.

[EPAPressure]

Originally Posted by Tafari Makonnen

$800 MSRP. Dealer cost is around $530. It is a dual tube bull pup shotgun that holds 14 rounds and has an overall length of 24" without a tax stamp. You are not getting a saiga that small for anywhere near that money, and your going to have a stupid short barrel.

Yea aside from shorter barrel length I'd still want a Saiga

Just my opinion though

[Orvis09]

I learned my lesson from buying cheap ammo. Tulammo/Wolf is a no go. I shot 60 rounds of it yesterday, and 40 rounds of Remington. Almost every single shot had a failure to eject, a misfeed, or some sort of problem. Got rid of all the cheap ammo, and shot 40 rounds of Remington right after without a single issue. It shot straighter, too.

[Tafari Makonnen]

If your rifle won't shoot steel cased ammo, there is something wrong with your rifle.

[barrel roll]

Originally Posted by Orvis09

I learned my lesson from buying cheap ammo. Tulammo/Wolf is a no go. I shot 60 rounds of it yesterday, and 40 rounds of Remington. Almost every single shot had a failure to eject, a misfeed, or some sort of problem. Got rid of all the cheap ammo, and shot 40 rounds of Remington right after without a single issue. It shot straighter, too.

Wolf/Tula ammo is dirty, and not very consistant. Wolf Military is ok. Ulyanovsk is better.


If you are going cheap Russian steel ammo, and don't care about reloading, go with Uly. Cheaper and better.

[Orvis09]

It's not just my rifle, it was theirs, too. Both were Bushmasters with Pmags...

[barrel roll]

I've actually been hearing bad reviews from Bushy owners on the cheaper ammos.

[Orvis09]

I've just heard bad things about steel ammo in general... For $5 more a box, I will take some brass ammo.