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11-26-2010, 02:46 PM
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#43
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CLICK, CLICK, BOOM
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: South Louisiana
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Consistency from every reg on the gun will help improve performance. If each reg recharges at the rated or set pressure then the gun should run better. I prefer a lower output tank because it helps the drivetrain work less. There is less stress on seals and reg pistons.
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11-26-2010, 03:59 PM
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#44
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I know the paintball
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Namibia
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I hate my luxe..
a smaller profile would be awesome like the myth reg
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11-29-2010, 08:15 AM
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#45
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Gun Whore in training
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Norwalk, CT
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I would like to see a long reg, and have shot the luxe with everything from 450psi to 800psi. With the longer reg, I would be a perfect setup for me with my 45/45.
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11-29-2010, 10:57 AM
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#46
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Vicious Circles
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: right here
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ragin Cajun
I prefer a lower output tank because it helps the drivetrain work less. There is less stress on seals and reg pistons.
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I've heard this more than once and personally, I don't see how it puts any less stress on parts. The reg is designed that when the output pressure the reg sees reaches a certain point, it closes off the input. For example, if you set the inline reg to output 550psi, there's effectively 550psi pushing down on the piston to close it off against the reg seat. How is the amount of force the reg seat sees any different when the reg has an input of 600psi vs 900psi? Either way, the reg seat still sees 550psi from the piston pushing down on it. The stress the drivetrain sees would be determined by your operating pressure, which shouldn't change just because the tanks output does.
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11-29-2010, 02:17 PM
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#47
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CLICK, CLICK, BOOM
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: South Louisiana
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Angel I was mainly speaking about the seals like the Asa to frame, frame to body and reg to body along with the Oring on the reg which separates tank pressure from hpr pressure.
Also, if the spring in the reg doesn't have to be compressed by 500 psi then why use it? If it operates fine at 400 or less then that's less wear on internal parts. Would you run 50psi in your car tires because you can when they operate fine at 35? See my point?
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11-29-2010, 03:17 PM
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#48
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Vicious Circles
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: right here
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ragin Cajun
Angel I was mainly speaking about the seals like the Asa to frame, frame to body and reg to body along with the Oring on the reg which separates tank pressure from hpr pressure.
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Ahh, the tank on the o-ring I could see, because that o-ring sees actually *does* change depending on whether the tank is HP or LP; though it is a static o-ring so the "wear" really comes from when you screw the tank on or off.
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Originally Posted by Ragin Cajun
Also, if the spring in the reg doesn't have to be compressed by 500 psi then why use it? If it operates fine at 400 or less then that's less wear on internal parts. Would you run 50psi in your car tires because you can when they operate fine at 35? See my point?
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Kind of a flawed analogy. I understand not running things at a higher pressure than necessary... but keep in mind, changing your tank from HP to LP (and vice versa) really should have little, if any, change on what the operating pressure of the marker is. Changing the input pressure to the reg from 400 to 800 doesn't matter, the marker still operates at 150-200psi and sees the same pressure either way.
The only time you're likely have an issue with "premature wear" or other negative impacts in general, is if the inline reg isn't designed for HP input (eg. it's not *made* to accept pressure higher than 650psi) or the tank ASA has some flaw. If the tank ASA has a flaw that it can't accept HP tanks, that's a problem since most tanks out on the field and in stores are more likely to be HP than LP.
Now what going with an LP tank *will* get you is better regulated output after the HP tanks internal pressure drops below it's output. For example, if the tank reg is set to output at 850psi and your tanks capacity drops below that, the reg is pretty much not regulating anymore.. there just isn't enough air to do so. With an LP tank, there's a larger "buffer" of air that gets regulated due to the LP reg naturally being set lower.
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Last edited by FallNAngel : 11-29-2010 at 03:20 PM.
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12-06-2010, 02:00 PM
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#49
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CLICK, CLICK, BOOM
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: South Louisiana
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Update.....
Used my Ninja reg yesterday on both my G6R and my NT with zero issues. The tank recharges very well. I don't have the updated Asa on my NT and with the new milling on the face of the reg I had zero issues. I'll try and get some pics ups soon of the new Gen 2 piston and the internals.
Thumbs up to Ninja for making an excellent reg and super customer service.
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12-06-2010, 02:31 PM
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#50
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Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: BOSTON 617
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Will it work on the GEO2 or LUXE?
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12-06-2010, 03:32 PM
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CLICK, CLICK, BOOM
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: South Louisiana
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Ninja made it for me for my Luxe. My luxe is in Cali right now so I used on my other guns. Full test once I get my Luxe back.
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12-06-2010, 03:54 PM
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#52
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Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Chicago, IL
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ragin Cajun
Update.....
Used my Ninja reg yesterday on both my G6R and my NT with zero issues. The tank recharges very well. I don't have the updated Asa on my NT and with the new milling on the face of the reg I had zero issues. I'll try and get some pics ups soon of the new Gen 2 piston and the internals.
Thumbs up to Ninja for making an excellent reg and super customer service.
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Great to hear! Keep the feedback coming guys. We're still keeping an eye on this thread.
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12-07-2010, 10:29 AM
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#53
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Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: BOSTON 617
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Originally Posted by Rob @ Ninja PB
Great to hear! Keep the feedback coming guys. We're still keeping an eye on this thread.
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How does it compare to the Reg. that comes with a GEO2?
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12-07-2010, 10:37 AM
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#54
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Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Chicago, IL
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Quote:
Originally Posted by nin7474
How does it compare to the Reg. that comes with a GEO2?
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Hey Can, we're talking about the tank reg, not the inline reg that comes on the marker.
BRUCE LEE FTW!
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12-07-2010, 10:45 AM
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#55
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Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: BOSTON 617
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rob @ Ninja PB
Hey Can, we're talking about the tank reg, not the inline reg that comes on the marker.
BRUCE LEE FTW!
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OOPS!! My fault!
BRUCE LEE FTW!! 
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