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Old 08-30-2010, 11:01 AM #1996
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Old 08-30-2010, 11:23 AM #1997
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And this means what exactly. I kind of need more if you want advice or something.
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Babsa - Yeah I'm as puzzled as Kyle (Pbkid777)
Was just wondering how yall would handle this. There are a few things going on as well, but i don't want to bring that up. I don't even care for advice, just your thoughts on the matter.
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Old 08-30-2010, 11:45 AM #1998
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Honestly i would recommend giving church a shot (even though you apperently are not interested in it).. it would probably help the relationship with your dad. what harm would 3 or 4 sundays do? also please remember that Christianity is not about a religion or a set of rituals or a list of dos and donts its about a relationship the God of the universe... give it some thought, just try it every sunday morning for say a month.
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Old 08-30-2010, 12:12 PM #1999
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Krew - Unless someone else would care to make the thread? I can make the new one soon.

Babsa - I can look at it as both a father and a son, so my thoughts: As a father I think it would be wise to honor your father's wishes and not tell him one thing and do another. The dishonesty in that regard would be more hurtful in the end. Plus he has the advantage of having made mistakes and learned from them.

As a young man: It isn't your fault that he didn't take you to church more often when you were younger and the feeling of being pressured to do so now would make me feel like I had to somehow make up for his mistake if I was in a similar situation.

Going to Church and reading the bible won't make you a Christian, all it would do is expose you to Christian (hopefully) and biblical teachings. Unless you act upon those teachings you will continue to have no/little faith. I suspect, but don't know, that your father already knows or suspects that your faith is lacking (for lack of a better word) and he is only trying to encourage you to re-new/build upon the faith he wishes you to share with him. But I don't know the full details and that can only be speculation.

I hope that helps, and if I'm off base I apologize. I believe open and honest lines of communication are the best policy. As difficult as they may be, the results of less than honest are much more destructive.
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Honestly i would recommend giving church a shot (even though you apperently are not interested in it).. it would probably help the relationship with your dad. what harm would 3 or 4 sundays do? also please remember that Christianity is not about a religion or a set of rituals or a list of dos and donts its about a relationship the God of the universe... give it some thought, just try it every sunday morning for say a month.
I believe i already have a very firm grasp of Christianity, the Christian god, and Jesus. Going to church again will not give me faith, only living my life will lead me to God at this point. And my father and I do not have a bad relationship, but he is my dad, and he wants to be assured that I am saved. He is past the majority of his life, so i am sure he is looking for consolation that i have found my faith in Christ, but i honestly haven't yet.

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Babsa - I can look at it as both a father and a son, so my thoughts: As a father I think it would be wise to honor your father's wishes and not tell him one thing and do another. The dishonesty in that regard would be more hurtful in the end. Plus he has the advantage of having made mistakes and learned from them.

As a young man: It isn't your fault that he didn't take you to church more often when you were younger and the feeling of being pressured to do so now would make me feel like I had to somehow make up for his mistake if I was in a similar situation.

Going to Church and reading the bible won't make you a Christian, all it would do is expose you to Christian (hopefully) and biblical teachings. Unless you act upon those teachings you will continue to have no/little faith. I suspect, but don't know, that your father already knows or suspects that your faith is lacking (for lack of a better word) and he is only trying to encourage you to re-new/build upon the faith he wishes you to share with him. But I don't know the full details and that can only be speculation.

I hope that helps, and if I'm off base I apologize. I believe open and honest lines of communication are the best policy. As difficult as they may be, the results of less than honest are much more destructive.
Although i previously stated that we have a good relationship, we don't speak openly about private matters. That is just how some people are, that is how we are. I understand that lying about not going to church is not the best option, but saying that i do not feel i will learn anything (or find church to be important) would be much more difficult. I am well versed in the bible. I want to make sure yall understand that i went to church up until middle school, as well as attended sunday school. During high school i learned the most important lessons about Christianity and Jesus through Dr. David Jeremiah.

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may i ask why not (referring to you decision not to put faith in Christ or you lack of decision to which ever way)? (not being condemning or intrusive just curious)
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