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Old 03-06-2010, 04:30 AM #1
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Exclamation UL FRAME FACTs

this is for the numerous questions that never seem to stop

FIRST OFF, IF your frame looks something like this, and the leds are on the left side, you have a UL frame


The PM5 ul frame fits only the PM5
The PM6 ul frame only fits the PM6
The PM7 UL frame olny fits the PM7
For pmr's The one ul frame released for the Pmr will fit the 07 and 08 pmrs if im correct, and those ul frames are only compatible with the 07 and 08 pmrs.
The ul frame for the DMC, DM5, and DM4 are compatible between each other, so a ul frame from a DMC will fit a DM4, or DM5, but that frame will not fit a Pm5.

The DM Frame to the corresponding year, for example, the DM6 UL frame will not fit the PM6, nor any other gun besides another DM6,
So if you want a UL frame, it MUST be for the gun you are buying it for. So dont buy a DM6 ul frame and expect it to fit on the PM6.

hope this clears it up

TRIGGERS
any UL frame trigger will fit in a UL frame
so a critical trigger for a DM6,7,8,9,or ten will fit in a pm5, 6, 7, or 8 as long as it has a UL frame

The ul frame trigger for the pmr is just an aluminum trigger, not an actual trigger for an ultralite frame.

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ALL UL FRAME BOARDS ARE INTERCHANGEABLE except for the one in the PM5 ul frame
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Standard UL boards will not work in Proto Mtx05. They sit too high up. The solenoid comes down into the frame on this marker. That is the reason the M5 does not have the top LED.
so a DM9 board will fit and work perfectly in a pm6 ul frame.
Also, a Vitrue OLED UL board will be just fine in a PM7 UL frame.
Those are just examples. If it says UL board, it will fit in the DMC, DM4, DM5, DM6, DM7, DM8, DM9, DM10, PM6, PM7, PM8, and PMR UL FRAMES. IT must have a UL frame for it to work. the only exceptions to this rule are the DYE NT, PM5, and the SLG
The only UL frame board you cant do this with is with the SLG and NT ul frame. Those frames are just the same feel, not exactly the same inner workings to my knowledge.

PMR UL frame Detail for boards and triggers
The Ul frame for the PMR(aftermarket on on the 08 and 07 and the ones stock on 09 and 2010)
The boards theat fit in them are the UL frame standard boards that will fit in any DM.
The triggers are special and you need a PMR ul frame trigger. A standard UL frame trigger will not work in a PMR

PSP RULES AND BOARD SETTINGS
ALL UL FRAME BOARDS have psp burst, so unless you need more settings than dwell, ROF, Fire mode, and trigger sensitivity, your set.
The DM boards have wired eye connections.
THe PM ul frames have ribbon eye wires

Fire modes on all boards
-semi, capped uncapped
-psp (burst), capped and uncapped,
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Might also note that ALL UL boards, from the PM5 and DM5, all the way up, are all 10bps ready, which means that they are PSP legal. Yes, I know PSP is 12.5 now but people have asked, and God only knows if it'll stay the same next year.
with 10bps and 12.5 for psp
-millennium ramp, capped and uncapped

As long as psp stays above 10 bps, you will be able to use a stock UL board.

IF YOU NEED MORE MODES ON ANY UL BOARD, except NT and SLG, Tadao offers a flashing service that will add
" * Fully legal in all tournament series (10 bps compatible for 2009 PSP/Millennium season rules!)
* Five modes of fire
o Unlimited semi-automatic
o Adjustable semi-automatic
o PSP/Millennium ramping
o PSP z-burst
o NXL full-automatic
* More than 1 million unique ways to adjust settings
* Asynchronously monitors the trigger switch using an interrupt based scan at 1 million times per second for the quickest response time and fastest semi-automatic
* Rate of fire adjustable from 10 to unlimited bps in 0.5 bps increments
* AMB (anti-mechanical bounce) and CPF (cycle percentage filter) algorithms help to prevent mechanical and switch bounce without missing real trigger pulls
* Gangster setting allows 3 different options for every firemode, giving 15 different "breakout" style modes
* 7 color LED provides an easy to use programming mode which allows changes to nearly any variable, including debounce, dwell, loader delay, AMB, anti-bolt stick, fire mode, max rate of fire, eye mode, CPF, Gangster breakout mode, ramp start activation, and more
* All settings are stored in non-volatile memory so they are not lost when the battery is disconnected
* Power efficient software and hardware lengthen battery life
* Automatic 15 minute idle power down saves batteries
* One-touch startup enables the marker to fire almost instantly
* Low battery indicator hardware and software shows battery level each time the marker is turned on"
and its for a slight fee, but substantially less than a complete new board.

GET IT HERE

ALSO, for you aftermarket ASA lovers, the ul frames have a rail that excepts rail mounted and Direct mount asa's, so you can add hella drop forwards if you want.

If anything is wrong, please leave a comment in a nice and polite way, i have no problem admitting im wrong and fixing my mistakes.
so just lemme know. thanks

ALSO, give a round of applause to gnarkill and J. Thompson #5150
for helping with some extra facts.
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Old 05-13-2010, 09:12 PM #2
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Thanks for posting this boss, helped me out a lot
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Old 05-13-2010, 11:17 PM #3
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Oh, thank God, it will cut down on half the questions in this forum.
Please sticky this.


Please add info about different eyes (PM5/PM6 vs PM7/PM8 and wire vs ribbon)

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Old 05-16-2010, 08:30 PM #4
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Thanks for all the help
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Old 05-17-2010, 12:33 AM #5
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You all are very welcome, i dont own a PMR, but the frame and operation is kinda like the PM (pm6 and PM7uld i own/owned) so you can just pm if you got anymore frame Q's
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Old 05-19-2010, 09:32 PM #6
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Kinda a stupid questions does the rail still fire if the battery is dyin
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Old 05-20-2010, 04:57 AM #7
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yes and no.
maybe, maybe not.
it depends on how the battery feels no lie, but just change it.
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Old 06-12-2010, 05:58 PM #8
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What trigger would fit a PMR UL frame
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Old 06-13-2010, 04:40 AM #9
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so if i get this right the NT trigger does NOT fit pmr 2010?
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Old 06-13-2010, 03:58 PM #10
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so if i get this right the NT trigger does NOT fit pmr 2010?
im not 100% sure, but seeing as how the NT frame is different than the DM/PM ul frames and the PMR frame uses different triggers than the DM/ PM frame, than no.
if im wrong lmk know
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Old 06-13-2010, 08:41 PM #11
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The trigger that is on the NT/DM10 will not fit the UL frame on the PMR.
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Old 06-23-2010, 03:27 PM #12
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will a UL pmr trigger fit a PM8? or should i get a Dye DM6/DM7 UL FRAME Trigger?

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Old 06-24-2010, 02:13 PM #13
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will a UL pmr trigger fit a PM8? or should i get a Dye DM6/DM7 UL FRAME Trigger?
i dont own a pmr but the normal UL triggers dont work in PMr;s but if you want to put a pmr trigger in a pm8 lemme know how that works
and if you're asking about a PM8 this is the PMR forum and if you have the PM8, not the 08 rail try asking in the Proto matrix forum
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Old 06-24-2010, 11:57 PM #14
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i dont own a pmr but the normal UL triggers dont work in PMr;s but if you want to put a pmr trigger in a pm8 lemme know how that works
and if you're asking about a PM8 this is the PMR forum and if you have the PM8, not the 08 rail try asking in the Proto matrix forum

I have a PM8, I wasn't sure which CP trigger to get since none of them say PM8, they either say CP PMR Ultralite Trigger, or DM6/7/8 UL trigger. and the people at ansgear were telling me to order the UL PMR trigger. needless to say that didn't sound right to me so I ordered the DM6/7/8 CP trigger. but yes i will let you know.
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Old 06-28-2010, 07:01 PM #15
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What trigger would fit a PMR UL frame
Any ul frame trigger they have been the same for a while.

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so if i get this right the NT trigger does NOT fit pmr 2010?
no but however if you buy a reach trigger and a nt trigger you can splice them at the hub and thus have the nt trigger on any ul and vice versa have a reach on the nt. I have a friend that did it with ease, the only diff is the internal part of the trigger the hub is the same.

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im not 100% sure, but seeing as how the NT frame is different than the DM/PM ul frames and the PMR frame uses different triggers than the DM/ PM frame, than no.
if im wrong lmk know
Read above.
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The trigger that is on the NT/DM10 will not fit the UL frame on the PMR.
Read above.

I will get you guys some pics if you want. All he did is buy a reach and undo the set screws on the hub of his nt trigger and replaced just the blade of it not the internal part that is where the difference is.
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Old 06-29-2010, 01:45 AM #16
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so you're trying to tell me the pmr ul frame triggers will fit in the DM guns and matrices, not rails with a ul frame?
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Old 06-29-2010, 01:55 AM #17
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better put that any UL frame trigger will fit in a pmr ul frame?
thats not true
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Old 07-21-2012, 10:35 PM #18
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Does anyone have problems with being able to see the lights on the UL frame? I have a PMR with the UL and can't see the lights when I am outside (on the field).
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Old 07-22-2012, 09:32 AM #19
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Does anyone have problems with being able to see the lights on the UL frame? I have a PMR with the UL and can't see the lights when I am outside (on the field).
That will be the issue outside with more marker lights, just put your hand over it to give it some shade.
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Old 08-28-2012, 11:00 PM #20
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anyone know the durability of the ul frame. How strong it is or weight it can hold?
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Old 03-02-2013, 03:14 PM #21
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@OP so I think i get the jist of what your saying but just to be clear. I own a PM8 with a small hairline anno crack across the back of the frame above the buttons. So what i should be Looking for is ONLY a PM8 grip frame correct? No DM7 or DM8 UL grip frames will fit on it? I understand that is the case with the earlier model PM's but the 8's UL looks very similar to the DM7 & 8. even the 6 looks like it would work. please get back to me asap thanks!
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