Find fields & stores near you!
Find fields and stores
Zipcode
PbNation News
PbNation News
Community Focus
Community Focus

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 06-12-2010, 08:06 PM #1
ccluff2
 
 
ccluff2's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
The Machined IPR Mod v2.5 * Pics Updated*

11/24/10- The IPR Kit is Ready!!!

So I've been working on making a nice and clean ipr(internal pressure retention) for my shocker. The design is the same as my ipr mod walkthrough but the piston is machined out of delrin and valve seat is also fully machined and completely rebuildable. Let me know what you think. Also feel free to PM me if you have interest here.

Specs-

-Works in any shocker SFT or NXT
-completely eliminates pressure loss in the solenoid insert tube - increasing consistancy
-95% drop in, only requiring the user to make a super simple cut with scissors and glue on a bumper.
-totally user rebuildable with common orings already found in the shocker manifold. (1x3mm and 1x2.5mm orings)
-step by step installation instructions with life size pictures, making it so easy to install anyone can do it.
-allows the user to safely DOUBLE the flow to the solenoid, leading to rediculously consistant cycles.*
-will come with all orings and tools needed to install, including 4 free magnets for those of you who like to tinker (you supply scissors and glue)

*please note, in order to double the flow to the solenoid the body must be drilled out, but this is COMPLETELY OPTIONAL, and is not required to get benifits from the ipr. I will supply detailed instructions on how and where to drill, but if you dont feel comfortable doing this cs900 or any machinist can very easily do it for you.


The valve seat uses 1x3 mm (solenoid insert) orings around the outside and a 1x2.5 mm (center manifold oring) on the face, so rebuilding the ipr will be very easy.





This is what the IPR Kit will look like once installed in your gun. The clear straw represents the left insert tube.



Finalized kit



Installation Manual



















Here is the first video of a shocker shooting 22+ bps consistantly with the ipr installed.
The gun in the video has had the body drilled.
http://img265.imageshack.us/i/mvi6823.mp4/



***Back story- Theory of IPR***
Here is a quick diagram of what the IPR does.


Shocker(sft or nxt) - No IPR installed


Before the shot both chambers have equal pressure.


After the shot both chambers have dropped below regular operating pressure

--------------------------------------------------------------------------
--------------------------------------------------------------------------

Shocker(sft or nxt) - IPR installed



Before the shot both chambers have equal pressure.


After the shot the firing chamber pressure drops but the ipr maintains the correct operating pressure in the solenoid chamber. This more consistant pressure being being maintained in the solenoid chamber allows the gun to be more accurate at high rates of fire, eliminating drop off and shot fluctuations.
__________________
****The Machined IPR Mod for Shockers****
***********NOW AVAILABLE***********
http://www.pbnation.com/showthread.php?t=3407948


WEBSITE COMMING SOON...

Last edited by ccluff2 : 11-28-2010 at 12:12 PM.
ccluff2 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Sponsored Links Remove Advertisement
Advertisement
Old 06-12-2010, 09:29 PM #2
psycho91
I has a fuzzy hat
 
psycho91's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: west columbia, SC
hey would this work in a shoebox, because from what i understand it goes where the filter goes, and what exactly does it do
psycho91 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-12-2010, 10:20 PM #3
ccluff2
 
 
ccluff2's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
updated what the mod does.

Sorry it will not drop into a shoebox shocker.
__________________
****The Machined IPR Mod for Shockers****
***********NOW AVAILABLE***********
http://www.pbnation.com/showthread.php?t=3407948


WEBSITE COMMING SOON...
ccluff2 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-12-2010, 10:34 PM #4
Zepulkinator
Epic Purple Dude
 
Zepulkinator's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: The 'Dookie, IL
Zepulkinator plays in the PSP
Zepulkinator supports Team VICIOUS
Zepulkinator is reppin' sidebar 4 life
Zepulkinator is Boss
I see you have a lot of the machined pistons. Does that mean you plan to sell them in a kit?

PM me if you are. I'd be interested in buying.
Zepulkinator is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-12-2010, 11:00 PM #5
AirSin2000
Tengoungato?
 
AirSin2000's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: San Diego, South Cali
 has been a member for 10 years
AirSin2000 supports Team VICIOUS
AirSin2000 posts videos on PbNation
AirSin2000 supports Empire
I am definitely interested in this mod now that I got a SFT to mess with.
AirSin2000 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-13-2010, 07:28 AM #6
psycho91
I has a fuzzy hat
 
psycho91's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: west columbia, SC
oh man, oh well i guess there really isnt anything to do to my shoebox, except to find a derlin bolt, GL man they look nice
psycho91 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-13-2010, 09:14 AM #7
p3ngu!n
oh looky, a penguin.
 
p3ngu!n's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: florida
Awesome job cfluff. This is really cool. Could you pm me a price on the kit???
__________________
Originally posted by Outlawed, "She's going viral... Man the BOXXYGUN!!!"
p3ngu!n is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-13-2010, 12:37 PM #8
StrangeBalla55
bamcis
 
StrangeBalla55's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Stuttgart
StrangeBalla55 donated to help Peyton Trent
StrangeBalla55 supports Sherwood Forest
Nice!

Maybe you'd be able to get the full purpose of the IPR, I didnt have time/recources at the time.

But drill out the whole left insert tube, tap it. Then you would be able to physicly adjust the tention.

Hows ur results been?
StrangeBalla55 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-13-2010, 09:09 PM #9
ccluff2
 
 
ccluff2's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
It works very well. I was able to shoot below 250fps at 20+ bps consistantly with reballs in my basement. I set the tadao yakuza to 22bps full auto and turn the eyes off so I know it is really 22bps. Also when you degas your marker on a stock shocker the gun usually stores enough air for 1 shot and then vents the air. But with the IPR installed you can get that 1 shot and then the bolt will continue to cycle 2-3 more times before the air begins to vent like normal.

I adjust the tension through the length of the filter. first you line up the filter with the pattern included and cut it to length. then to fine tune the tension you can just stack another magnet(included) on the end of the filter if the filter is cut too short and the piston rattles. then you never need to mess with it again.

I will try to get the video of it shooting in a gun when I get air later this week.
__________________
****The Machined IPR Mod for Shockers****
***********NOW AVAILABLE***********
http://www.pbnation.com/showthread.php?t=3407948


WEBSITE COMMING SOON...
ccluff2 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-14-2010, 06:41 PM #10
t1lttm0de
 
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
hm, im very intrigued as to the results of installing one of these
t1lttm0de is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-16-2010, 09:52 PM #11
meejacob
 
 
meejacob's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: 808 State
Pm'd you!
__________________
Im local I do what ever the **** I want

Sogamember666 - "Want to meet up and show our balls to one another?"
meejacob is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-16-2010, 10:09 PM #12
p3ngu!n
oh looky, a penguin.
 
p3ngu!n's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: florida
^^^


I made you a sale cc... You should reward me.
__________________
Originally posted by Outlawed, "She's going viral... Man the BOXXYGUN!!!"
p3ngu!n is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-16-2010, 11:46 PM #13
ccluff2
 
 
ccluff2's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
The clear cans are getting made friday so that will take priority once they get off the machine, so the ipr kits will be slightly delayed.

The testing I have done so far have shown good results and I feel people will be pleased. I got a little air today but sadly I had a bad oring and that used most of the air to pinpoint the leak. The gun did reach 23.5 bps but only for a split second because my tank just couldn't recharge below 1k psi. The hopper was also struggling to keep up, I'll have to set up the prophecy to max speed for the next video.
__________________
****The Machined IPR Mod for Shockers****
***********NOW AVAILABLE***********
http://www.pbnation.com/showthread.php?t=3407948


WEBSITE COMMING SOON...
ccluff2 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-17-2010, 12:14 AM #14
ccluff2
 
 
ccluff2's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Here's the first video. The next video will be better, with a faster hopper and a full tank of air. The gun still does shoot 23.5 bps for a slit second which is damn fast for a sprung shocker. The next video will have as solid second or two stream to show sustained consistancy at rediculously high speeds(for a shocker).

http://img265.imageshack.us/i/mvi6823.mp4/

sorry for the double post this computer wont let me edit.
__________________
****The Machined IPR Mod for Shockers****
***********NOW AVAILABLE***********
http://www.pbnation.com/showthread.php?t=3407948


WEBSITE COMMING SOON...
ccluff2 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-17-2010, 01:21 AM #15
against_me
Zombie Unicorn Attack!
 
against_me's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: CA 909
against_me supports DLX Technology
spiffy!
__________________
Zombie Unicorn Attack! Facebook Page Become a fan or we'll eat your brain

PaintBall Stuff4Sale

ZOMBIE UNICORN ATTACK!
We Will Infect The World
against_me is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-17-2010, 01:55 PM #16
Lurker27
Engineering the Future
 
Lurker27's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Annual Supporting Member
Lurker27 is a Supporting Member
 has been a member for 10 years
Lurker27 posts videos on PbNation
Lurker27 has been published on the PbNation Youtube Channel
Is your body hole drilled out?
__________________
World's Best Hard-Parts Upgrades!
EigenBarrels, Mini, AXE, Intimidators, DM, Shocker
Lurker27 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-17-2010, 02:21 PM #17
ccluff2
 
 
ccluff2's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lurker27 View Post
Is your body hole drilled out?
yes, the shocker in the video is drilled out to .070", which is double the flow from the stock .050" hole.
__________________
****The Machined IPR Mod for Shockers****
***********NOW AVAILABLE***********
http://www.pbnation.com/showthread.php?t=3407948


WEBSITE COMMING SOON...
ccluff2 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-17-2010, 02:25 PM #18
Lurker27
Engineering the Future
 
Lurker27's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Annual Supporting Member
Lurker27 is a Supporting Member
 has been a member for 10 years
Lurker27 posts videos on PbNation
Lurker27 has been published on the PbNation Youtube Channel
Have you recorded the results w/ just the larger hole, and no IPR by chance? I'm pretty intrigued by the effect this would have on the EB, since that is also designed to articulate faster than stock. I believe it would be synergistic.
__________________
World's Best Hard-Parts Upgrades!
EigenBarrels, Mini, AXE, Intimidators, DM, Shocker
Lurker27 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-17-2010, 02:34 PM #19
ccluff2
 
 
ccluff2's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
I'm getting the final revision of the valve seat on friday so that will be my first test, but I have a feeling that at high rates of fire the gun will get shoot down/inconsistancy if you drill out the body and have no ipr.
I do know that the ipr does completely block off air from excaping the noid chamber becuase when I degass the marker the bolt will continue to cycle for a good 2-3 times after the initial 1 shot of air that the marker typically stores.
__________________
****The Machined IPR Mod for Shockers****
***********NOW AVAILABLE***********
http://www.pbnation.com/showthread.php?t=3407948


WEBSITE COMMING SOON...
ccluff2 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-17-2010, 04:18 PM #20
Beast 911
928/Droppin Loads all day
 
Beast 911's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Beast 911 owns a Planet Eclipse Ego
pretty gangster!
Beast 911 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-17-2010, 09:21 PM #21
Vulpix
 
 
Vulpix's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
When you say articulate, you are meaning how fast it travels right? If so I makes sense that the drilled out body would compliment the eigenbolt. In fact, you should send him one to test just that
Vulpix is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools

Posting Rules
Forum Jump