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Old 06-23-2008, 03:58 PM #1
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ALL the information you will EVER need to know about lube

What Kind of lube?
  • Dow 33 Lube, only.
  • No oil (i.e. Spyder Lube)
  • No dow 55 lube, it swells your O-rings.

What is dow 33 lube?
Dow Corning Is a company that makes lubricants, and there are several different Ratings, like 33 and 55 which are common in paintball. In paintball if a lube is not marked with "oil" or "dow 55" chances are it IS dow 33 lubricant. These lubes include, but are not limited to:
  • Sl33k, a.k.a Shocker lube (Smart Parts Recommends this, and using any other lube voids your warranty.)
  • Dye Lubricant
  • Hater Sauce
  • Ninjuice
  • Evil pus
  • Gun Sav
  • Slick Honey
  • ANYTHING dow 33. You can even go to home depot and get some.

How often should I lube?
You should lube all of the O-rings on your bolt and inside the firing assembly about every Case that you shoot. If you gun has sat unused for more than a couple of weeks, you should lube before you use it.

How do I get to my bolt?


Please note: Do not post not sticky worthy because nobody will read them. I know that. This is meant to be a tool for us, so that next time a lube thread pops up we can link to this. I'm sick of the 3 page lube threads.
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Old 06-23-2008, 04:01 PM #2
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havnt you already done this once?
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Old 06-23-2008, 04:02 PM #3
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Isn't it Evil pus not Plus, just to clarify things.

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Old 06-23-2008, 04:03 PM #4
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Nope.

EDIT: to evil.

Mike, changed.
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finally. hope this works out mike. (not at stickying because you have a valid point)
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Old 06-23-2008, 04:05 PM #6
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finally. hope this works out mike. (not at stickying because you have a valid point)
Yeah, I just want to be able to link to it, and not have to post in those lube threads twice or more a week.
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Yeah, I just want to be able to link to it, and not have to post in those lube threads twice or more a week.
not a bad idea.
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Old 06-23-2008, 05:18 PM #8
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that helped! my field has dye lube and my teammate has evil pus, now i dont have to go to the other fields to order sleek. mooching ftw
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Old 06-23-2008, 05:48 PM #9
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Added to the ultimate sticky for future linkage purposes.

http://www.pbnation.com/showthread.p...3#post26127673
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Old 06-23-2008, 09:44 PM #11
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Thank you very much! answered my questions
That is really good to hear. Glad it served a purpose.
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Added to the ultimate sticky for future linkage purposes.

http://www.pbnation.com/showthread.p...3#post26127673
lol, admit it you felt bad for mike since this is like his 6th thread he's made in hopes of a sticky and you needed to give him atleast one.

Congrats Mike
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Old 06-23-2008, 09:46 PM #13
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lol, admit it you felt bad for mike since this is like his 6th thread he's made in hopes of a sticky and you needed to give him atleast one.

Congrats Mike
Nope, this is my second. Ion Xe faq, thank you very much.

EDIT: And I made this out of future laziness. I can now just press ctrl+c, ctrl+v and not type all that **** out.
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lol... my laziness too will now benefit from it
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sorry noob question but will slick honey work? I got some with an oring kit.
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Does it say Dow33 on it anywhere?
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Old 12-29-2008, 08:17 PM #17
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Straight from their site's specs page:

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Slick Honey sets the standard when it comes to lubricating O-rings and other parts for paintball markers. Why? Slick Honey reduces the static drag and breakaway force that enables a reduction in operating pressures. Slick Honey has a premium additive packages that has properties to reduce friction. An inherent feature of the additives is the ability to adhere and impregnate to the surface pores of the object that needs lubrication. Slick Honey is safe to use on O rings, seals and plastic parts. Slick Honey is calcium based, which is considered to be water proof.
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Old 12-29-2008, 08:48 PM #18
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its used on dm's so i think it would be ok on other spoolies
edit: i think we are good
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We would like to share some aspects of O-ring dynamics. Some paintball enthusiasts are hungry for technical information and we would like to provide some of what we have learned from sealing air shocks with O-rings. Reducing friction in our shocks was one of the most important factors we had to deal with.

Slick Honey does not effect or swell O-rings in any way. We have been using this grease on O-rings for over 12 years and have had great results.

When do I replace O-rings? We have found that using an eye loop or a good magnifying glass, you can determine if you should replace or not. First thing I look for is a minor flat spot on the surface that meets with the bore or the spot which the movement takes place. If you can detect any wear or flat spot replace it. Second, carefully inspect for gouges or cuts and if any are detected replace. If your O-ring passes this it is more than likely as good as new.

Friction free O-ring performance not only depends on a good lubricant but also a good O-ring fit. Unfortunately, this is not always a perfect world and in manufacturing, the tolerance of parts play a big roll in costs. The tighter the tolerance the more it costs to build. When you have a bore with a piston (bolt) and a seal you have what is called tolerance stack up. You have 3 factors that add up to your actual squish on the o-ring which is bore diameter, gland diameter and the actual diameter of the o-ring. Tolerance of the O-rings are fairly loose and can sometimes very up to +-.003”. which makes a possible variance of .006” before you even consider what your marker bore and gland really measures. In the manufacturing world anything tighter than .002” tolerance the machinists cry. High end manufactures can control this much better. Specifications from o-ring suppliers give you a .010 tolerance on a 1/8” O-ring (.012 to .022) squish. Now all these figures fall into the category of within specification but if your unit has .022” of squish you will have a sticky action over an o-ring with .012” of squish. I am confident that an experienced paintballer that pays attention to his equipment has experienced this. Here is a great link to an O-ring company that has great technical information on all kinds of O-rings. http://www.oringswest.com

Keep in mind that surface finish and the condition of your bore is extremely important to the overall performance.

In the future we intend to add more technical information for you. We would appreciate any feed back on this technical page and if you have good advise to share we would certainly consider posting your comments.
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that is off their site too
good to see your thread you made mike got some use
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Why can't you use "Spyder" lube?
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um...not sure what you mean by spyder lube....if you mean oil, then you should NOT use it.
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Old 03-20-2010, 11:49 AM #21
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Well second time I'm using this thread. For those of you who have had a delrin bolt what lube did you use. I have tried out dow33 and didnt really care for it on there. I couldnt get an even coating and the bolt felt weird after that.
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