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Old 12-23-2009, 07:55 PM #1
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Color Vote/Custom Anno question to Jack and Nicky T.

To Jack, Nicky T, and and the PE staff, Would you ever considering giving the customers a color combo vote for the following year marker? Such as giving a selection from future color combos and color combos from past PE runs. I personally love dark grey or black with lime accents. Shameless suggestion.

Also if PE gave the customers this options, would they be able to cover a multitude of forums and sites? Such as here, PBJunkie, Ballerscafe, and/or pro paintball, to get a comprehensive vote?

Adding to that, along the same lines, would PE ever be able to provide a custom anno feature to their product line? Or be willing too? We all want custom guns but to get a custom anno marker voids warranty, and other companies offer "custom graphic anno" but lets face it, THEY SUCK, and they are not PE.

Most custom companies offer some pretty nice work for a moderate price. It would be well worth it IMO if PE gave the customer a factory warranty custom anno/graphic design/laser engraved option at just the increase to the marker MSRP for the custom work. For example 1250 MSRP+150 Custom anno.

Just a suggestion. If this subject has been approached before I apologize.
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Old 12-23-2009, 08:33 PM #2
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I don't see any of the above happening......they have never asked for opinions before and I can't see them starting in the future.

What you MAY see every now and then is a color scheme on a personal marker that then gets put into production. Mike's Dark Pooper gets my vote for full production!!!!!!!! Other than that, PE keeps the color schemes close to the vest. I would say they have done a KICK *** job of consistantly coming up with new, unique and great looking color combos WITHOUT repeating the same **** every year.

So keep doing it your way PE - it works!
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Old 12-23-2009, 09:10 PM #4
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I don't see any of the above happening......they have never asked for opinions before and I can't see them starting in the future.

What you MAY see every now and then is a color scheme on a personal marker that then gets put into production. Mike's Dark Pooper gets my vote for full production!!!!!!!! Other than that, PE keeps the color schemes close to the vest. I would say they have done a KICK *** job of consistantly coming up with new, unique and great looking color combos WITHOUT repeating the same **** every year.

So keep doing it your way PE - it works!
I hope they Never Ever make another Dark Pooper
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Old 12-23-2009, 11:14 PM #6
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I don't see any of the above happening......they have never asked for opinions before and I can't see them starting in the future.

What you MAY see every now and then is a color scheme on a personal marker that then gets put into production. Mike's Dark Pooper gets my vote for full production!!!!!!!! Other than that, PE keeps the color schemes close to the vest. I would say they have done a KICK *** job of consistantly coming up with new, unique and great looking color combos WITHOUT repeating the same **** every year.

So keep doing it your way PE - it works!

Just a question/suggestion. Im allowed to make such, and to say "Keep doing it your way PE - it works!" Is a suck butt fanboi statement.

Never asked them to change it or anything, just a consideration. Of coarse what PE does works. Look at the numbers, and their position in the industry.

But hey I dont make 2.76 of posts a day.
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Old 12-23-2009, 11:35 PM #7
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What does posts have to do with anything?

Mike - you never know, they did farhans sl94 for the ego 10 colors.
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Old 12-24-2009, 12:09 AM #8
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Mike - you never know, they did farhans sl94 for the ego 10 colors.
I think they were considering my colors anyways and Jack steered me in that direction. I originally wanted a dark blue with my lime green and Jack switched the dark blue with that aqua. I didn't like the blue at first, but it really grew on me over time.
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Of coarse what PE does works. Look at the numbers, and their position in the industry.


You should have just stopped with that. If they made suck *** colors like MacDev, produced the SAME colors year after year like Bob Long, and never tried to get crazy like Smart Parts.....I might in some small way agree with you.

And, even with 2.76 posts a day, what I say doesn't matter one bit......they will do what they want to do as what they do works better than any other marker manufacturer out there.

The day they start making ugly colors, repeating color schemes every year or making something that is just downright fugly, you might have a leg to stand on.......
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Old 12-24-2009, 03:48 AM #10
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UHHMMM, i think that is a great idea.. everybody wants a custom gun on the market, and it makes surfing pb nation for cool custom anno'd guns a whole lot better.. personally i'm gonna get a splash on my victory! but i never knew it voided the warranty.. thats trash.. if they gave that custom anno option i'm pretty sure anybody with a few extra bucks would take it.....
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Old 12-24-2009, 04:18 AM #11
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Anodising - not to mention the stripping process used to remove the original anodising - can alter the physical dimensions on the part. That in turn could effect the function of the marker.

I have seen parts left in the stripping tank too long that have become heavily pitted and come out considerably smaller than they went in. The stripping solution literally dissolves the aluminium (taking the anodising with it), so if it is left in too long, you're stuffed!

Taking that in to account, if you remove too much material from the inside of the body, the can o-ring wouldn't seal, and you would have a leaky body. Anodise the Prop Shaft, and you risk having a leaking bolt, and so on.

It isn't necessarily that having your marker totally voids your warranty - are Planet not going to help you with a solenoid issue because you anodised your barrel? No. However, if the anodising causes pitting inside your marker body and the bolt kit no longer seals, and the problem was obviously caused by the fact that your body was anodised aftermarket, then your body won't be under warranty anymore. Planet aren't under any obligation to resolve problems caused by anodising done by someone other than their anodiser.
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Old 12-24-2009, 06:01 AM #12
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Lets examine the whole point and process of my question.

1. The question was asked directly to the professionals of the company, allow them to answer.

2. PE has always listened to their customer base, hence their success. The question was aimed at giving THE CUSTOMER a choice, if it had an overall benefit to both company and customer.

3. Warranty. If the customer wants to add a personal flair to his/her marker, how could this be done without loosing a great thing such as a PE warranty? Vicious has their markers done from, Im assuming, an approved source that doesn't void warranty.

The purpose was to have whoever does the factory anno/graphic design increase their abilities to customize markers by the order. The customer places the order, it goes from raw finish to the annodizer, and the custom anno is the first and only anno to touch the gun.

Now we will look at my frustration, I ask a legitimate question that is intelligible as a customer to a specific individual/group and then Brules you shut me down as if it were a stupid question that I have no right to ask, and suggesting that I suggested PE change there business strategy. Especially when its a straight forward question/suggestion. No ambiguity there.

Also what cracks me up is when Vicious49, who I assumes plays for Vicious, agrees with your post about custom anno not happening and Vicious gets custom PE markers at will. I say that because you see Vicious markers EVERYWERE.

This is why forums are frustrating because if you make a post in a thread that is someones "territory", you get a negative response. That is why I mentioned the post average.

And trust me, PE has never done the same ol' sh/t. But giving the customer the choice... Dont know but just saying it has worked before. And there are some color schemes that never grow old.

Black w/ lime.
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Old 12-24-2009, 06:15 AM #13
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Old 12-24-2009, 06:33 AM #14
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No disrespect intended, but as this is a public forum, you are going to get responses from other people, even though this thread was directed at specific individuals. If you really want to avoid other people comments, it would be more appropriate to use PM's or e-mail to contact Jack and Nicky direct (e-mail in Nicky's case - he doesn't do PMs).

ps - Vicious does not play for Vicious. It was a username he chose independently of the team - as I understand it, before the team name came about.
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I would like to see a Brown and Grey combo (lolz)

Instead Brown and White or Brown and Gloss Black.
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Old 12-24-2009, 10:35 AM #16
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No disrespect intended, but as this is a public forum, you are going to get responses from other people, even though this thread was directed at specific individuals. If you really want to avoid other people comments, it would be more appropriate to use PM's or e-mail to contact Jack and Nicky direct (e-mail in Nicky's case - he doesn't do PMs).

ps - Vicious does not play for Vicious. It was a username he chose independently of the team - as I understand it, before the team name came about.
I understand Uziel, no disrespect received. I know its a public forum and its open to a multiple responses. I guess for me I expected a different response.

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Lets examine the whole point and process of my question.

1. The question was asked directly to the professionals of the company, allow them to answer.

You posted it in a public forum. Key word being public. A smarter choice (if you only wanted Jack or Nicky to respond) would have been to send them an email.

2. PE has always listened to their customer base, hence their success. The question was aimed at giving THE CUSTOMER a choice, if it had an overall benefit to both company and customer.

Most shops can't keep Egos on the shelf. I know my local shop can't. I'm assuming PE is producing them as fast as they can. They are not hurting for sales. So you want them to offer something that they could charge a few dollars more for at the expense of slowing down their current production. Not to mention the additional administrative work it would require to keep all the orders straight. And the people *****ing afterwards that the colors aren't the shade they wanted. Doesn't seem like a smart business move at all IMO.

3. Warranty. If the customer wants to add a personal flair to his/her marker, how could this be done without loosing a great thing such as a PE warranty? Vicious has their markers done from, Im assuming, an approved source that doesn't void warranty.

That's because theirs is anno'd straight from the factory. That and they do a lot of parts swapping on the guns they receive to get some of those color combos.

The purpose was to have whoever does the factory anno/graphic design increase their abilities to customize markers by the order. The customer places the order, it goes from raw finish to the annodizer, and the custom anno is the first and only anno to touch the gun.

Now we will look at my frustration, I ask a legitimate question that is intelligible as a customer to a specific individual/group and then Brules you shut me down as if it were a stupid question that I have no right to ask, and suggesting that I suggested PE change there business strategy. Especially when its a straight forward question/suggestion. No ambiguity there.

Also what cracks me up is when Vicious49, who I assumes plays for Vicious, agrees with your post about custom anno not happening and Vicious gets custom PE markers at will. I say that because you see Vicious markers EVERYWERE.

I am in no way associated with the team. I had my username before they switched from DSS to Vicious.

Also, Vicous isn't having PE do 1 offs of various colors. They're doing them 20-25 at a time. If you want to buy 25 purple and green Egos, I think PE would accomodate you. They do it for pbshowcase, paintballers inc, and Vicious/DSSP8ntball. Shell out the money for 25 markers and you can have your custom colors.


This is why forums are frustrating because if you make a post in a thread that is someones "territory", you get a negative response. That is why I mentioned the post average.

And trust me, PE has never done the same ol' sh/t. But giving the customer the choice... Dont know but just saying it has worked before. And there are some color schemes that never grow old.

Black w/ lime.
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Really? You must be new here then.
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You want custom colors? Call PE and agree to buy 20+ guns from them and I bet you they could work something out. Your not going to get it down to the individual level though.
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