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Old 12-19-2009, 08:43 PM #64
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Moss is not the GOAT, nor will he ever be, that too me will always be Jerry. Hutson was great, but I would put a few guys ahead of him. Like I said, Tim Brown, C Squared, Moss, Rice, even guys like Largent, Bruce, Holt, Harrison, etc. could be put above him IMO.




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Exactly. Physical ability for a receiver includes having good hands
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CJ has good hands, hes also alot younger so thats something that can be developed. Hes also on a ****tier team than moss ever was and he still tries. Moss is a ****ing bum, hes all smiles on the patriots but any smart person should remember what he was like on the Vikings(even when they were good) and the Raiders. You can't call a piece of **** player like that the best ever just because he got on a good team and stopped acting like a hood rat.
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Cj only had one more drop than moss last season, hes also had much ****tier qb's throwing him the ball his whole career...
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Old 12-19-2009, 09:39 PM #65
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Hutson was a great player, no doubt about it. But he also played in an era where he wasnt being guarded by top athletes or being paid much attention too. That was the "3 yards and a cloud of dust" era well before the forward pass had really been perfected by Johhny U. Hutson belongs in the top 5 of all time greats, but guys like Chris Carter, Moss, Rice, and even Tim Brown would go ahead of him for me. Hutson lead the league in all those stats but who else was playing WR in the NFL at that time to even challenge him? There wasnt much because of the aforementioned era he played in. No one was really throwing the ball in those days, at least not to the degree they started to in the 60's and especially the 70's.
You hit the nail on the head. The league has turned in to a huge pass-play type of game.

I think some of the greats from back in the day, would quite possibly be average players in today's league. For example, if the 72 Dolphins played this season (as they were back then), they would probably be something like 9-7 on the season.

Imagine Reggie Wayne, Moss, or anyone like that with Tom Brady, Manning, or Brees throwing the ball back in the 1940's. They would absolutely destroy every team they played.
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Old 12-19-2009, 10:03 PM #66
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Destroy teams, a little bit like Hutson did?
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Old 12-19-2009, 10:08 PM #67
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Destroy teams, a little bit like Hutson did?
I guess so.
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Old 12-20-2009, 11:55 AM #68
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really shows how amazing he is, and how he certaintly does not "give up on plays"...he might once in a small while, but watch that video and you will see how much effort he puts in
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Destroy teams, a little bit like Hutson did?
Yea, only they would destroy more.
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Old 12-20-2009, 12:15 PM #70
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Oh yea, Randy Moss has GREAT hands and he tries sooooo hard:

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Old 12-20-2009, 01:13 PM #71
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If you weren't such a homer and moss wasn't on NE, you wouldn't post this.


Hutson and Rice had class that moss doesn't. I doubt they were ever detrimental to their locker rooms and have taken part in winning title games
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Old 12-20-2009, 10:55 PM #72
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Again, I have always believed this, far before Moss was on New England...believe me, or don't...do I care...nope
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Old 12-21-2009, 10:42 AM #73
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Oh yea, Randy Moss has GREAT hands and he tries sooooo hard:

Are you really trying to say that Randy Moss does not have good hands? I can see people saying he doesn't go 100% all the time, or he's a headache, or other arguments along those lines, but to say he doesn't have hands? Have you watched the guy? He regularly makes unbelievable catches.
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Old 12-21-2009, 11:39 AM #74
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Are you really trying to say that Randy Moss does not have good hands? I can see people saying he doesn't go 100% all the time, or he's a headache, or other arguments along those lines, but to say he doesn't have hands? Have you watched the guy? He regularly makes unbelievable catches.
I've never heard John Madden laud about how Randy Moss has "big strong hands" like he did for an entire super bowl with Larry Fitzgerald . I never said he didn't have good hands, but I certainly don't think his hands are the best in the league.
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Old 12-21-2009, 11:41 AM #75
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Just as long as we're clear. He has fantastic hands.
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Old 12-21-2009, 11:47 AM #76
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Just as long as we're clear. He has fantastic hands.
I'll say great, but I don't think they are the best in the League.
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Fitz easily wins best hands contest. I mean, have you SEEN his IHOP commercials? He's amazing!
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Old 12-21-2009, 01:14 PM #78
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