[nightkast939]

I wouldn't recommend it. It doesn't seem to last long, well it didn't for me atleast. If you like haters get marmalade. It performed well for me at xball 5 and outlasted dow 33. My favorites are a toss up between marmalade and lurker just because of the longevity they provide between necessary maintenance.

Everyone has their own opinions on lube though. It'll work but won't last as long. Thats the basics of it.

[haimynameistaylor (Banned)]

i dont lube my guns normally i was just bored so i lubed it with hater stuff.
i was thinking about dropping some money on luxe stuff, i was thinking about getting a NOX bolt, new designz can, and violent trigger . any thoughts?
also how do i find out if i have a feather manifold or w/e?

[UcLafan31689]

Originally Posted by Ragin Cajun

Oil is subjective. Depending on the oil you use some will work better than others. A thicker oil won't creep into the threads like a thinner oil. I used 3 in 1 oil to break mine loose.

I used gun oil. Probably too think now that i think about it. Ill try something thinner.

[UcLafan31689]

Got it to break finally today. Used a thinner oil to get into the thread better!

[Ragin Cajun]

Yep thinner oil will get into those threads. Not sure why they loctite them from the factory.

[mr Rockwell]

Jep i done mine today. And I had trouble to brake loose that screw. When I screwed it in the loctite from the treads came loose and chipped. So jea thers loctite on the treads.

And regarding the Manifold screw i ajusted it like this.
"To make the gun softer on paint you just need to turn in the manifold screw. By doing so you will sacrifice some ROF. Usually what I do with this, set your board 2 BPS higher than what you will will be playing at and turn the screw in until you hear it starting to choke. Back the screw out a half a turn and drop your ROF and you should be good to go."

Works great but occasionally i get FSDO with the militia lube. Ill try hater souce next.

[timmykilla (Banned)]

Wow, these markers are actually pretty simple.

[orionz06]

Originally Posted by mr Rockwell

Jep i done mine today. And I had trouble to brake loose that screw. When I screwed it in the loctite from the treads came loose and chipped. So jea thers loctite on the treads.

And regarding the Manifold screw i ajusted it like this.
"To make the gun softer on paint you just need to turn in the manifold screw. By doing so you will sacrifice some ROF. Usually what I do with this, set your board 2 BPS higher than what you will will be playing at and turn the screw in until you hear it starting to choke. Back the screw out a half a turn and drop your ROF and you should be good to go."

Works great but occasionally i get FSDO with the militia lube. Ill try hater souce next.

I set mine to the max ROF, tuned the screw til it was slower than 10, and took it out to where it was above 15 and where i liked it... it will sustain about 16bps... then make sure to cap the board again

[hespelerhooligan]

so i turned the manifold in 31/2- 4 screws in from flush, set my fsdo to 12, and my dwell to twelve. chronroing around 275. my question is why is my effiecincy so damn brutal , i can only get 2 and a half pods off a 3000-3500 fill...

[digital sol]

Originally Posted by hespelerhooligan

so i turned the manifold in 31/2- 4 screws in from flush, set my fsdo to 12, and my dwell to twelve. chronroing around 275. my question is why is my effiecincy so damn brutal , i can only get 2 and a half pods off a 3000-3500 fill...

more than likely you are in need of a rebuild, id go ahead and replace the o-rings on the firing assembly and the o-ring inside the firing can, clean it, lube it and put a case through it on the same settings, you should be fine after that.................

[DC19]

Replace the center inner firing can oring if you are having efficency problems.

[hespelerhooligan]

i did and its working great, thanks boys

[brntblu]

Didnt even have to ask my question.

[spike14]

it seems to me that everyone is around the same settings on dwell 12 to 14 ms and three to four turns in on the manifold but fsdo ive heard from 7 to 20 on that setting will that cause my gun to use alot of air

[spike14]

i also spoke to a ndz rep he said what i thought that the bolt stick with the ndz can is a break in issue once u run enough paint through it that will stop and he also said they tested the gun with dow33 and thats what he recomended to use

[spike14]

my gun is set at 12 on dwell and three turns in on the manifold fsdo on 7 and 288-292 fps ill try this set up this weekend and post any changes on mon.

[PolePosition]

Are there 2 screws inside the manifold adjustment? I tried adjusting my manifold screw today and I couldnt turn in past flush...so I took the screw out, looked inside, and there was another adjustment screw inside....is that how it is supposed to be? Do I turn that second screw in farther so that my top screw can be turned in?

[Ragin Cajun]

I have never seen 2 screws in there. Take both out and adjust only 1.

[Felix_Trent]

its a 0.050 allen key

[MoB StronG]

Any updates on fsdo? My friend keeps his at 20 to make sure he has no drop off... But does it use up more air? I'm not sure where to put my fsdo!

[digital sol]

Originally Posted by MoB StronG

Any updates on fsdo? My friend keeps his at 20 to make sure he has no drop off... But does it use up more air? I'm not sure where to put my fsdo!

the colder is is and newer the gun/o-rings the higher you"ll want to set it to ensure you wont have any bolt stick....id recommend starting the fsdo at 12ms and raising it until the bolt stick stops...then raise it 2-3 more ms just to be safe.....

during the summer i keep mine at 8ms how-ever during the winter i raise it to 14-16ms, the amount of air lost is minuscule and wont be noticed..better to be be safe than sorry' when the match start's