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Old 08-12-2009, 07:25 AM #43
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Transformers.

They're real.

that is all.
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Old 08-12-2009, 07:42 AM #44
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They're robots. Not alien life. Try again.
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Old 08-12-2009, 07:54 AM #45
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Robots don't self generate.

..or do they? I hafta brush up on my transformers lore.
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Old 08-12-2009, 10:40 AM #46
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There Earth has been here what, 5 billion years? There is no possible way to know what happened thousands of years ago let alone billions.
You've got to be kidding me. Are you talking about Earth, the planet we live on? The planet whose natural history is billions of years old and has been studied by scientists extensively at this point? We know a lot about what has happened on this planet over the last 4.54 billion years. Not everything, but plenty.
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Old 08-12-2009, 01:35 PM #47
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You've got to be kidding me. Are you talking about Earth, the planet we live on? The planet whose natural history is billions of years old and has been studied by scientists extensively at this point? We know a lot about what has happened on this planet over the last 4.54 billion years. Not everything, but plenty.
Oh? So you know if aliens have visited us? Please tell, Mr. Scientist.
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It may be possible. Our galaxy alone is a miniscule fraction of the universe and who is to say other planets able to support life can't exist. Earth was a "miracle" and I'm sure with trillions of other celestial bodies, there is sure to be a few more miracles; whether they support pirmitive, basic life or advanced, intelligent life is still unclear but either is far from unthinkable.

Also, I hate how people jump to conclusions by suggesting aliens did something on Earth. Sometimes, people just feel like doing weird ****. Maybe some guys in ancient England got bored so they decided to stand a few rocks up, maybe some dumb kids in Nebraska got bored so they flattened some grain to make a crop circle..I mean people sometimes just do stuff to do stuff and to get some attention who is to say that Stonehenge or the Nazca lines aren't one of those things.
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I wasn't going to dignify this stupid *** thread with an answer, but...

"Space," it says, "is big. Really big. You just won't believe how vastly hugely mindbogglingly big it is. I mean you may think it's a long way down the road to the chemist, but that's just peanuts to space" - The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy.



Even with the unlimited amount of number of possible Alien life-forms out there, the fact remains that the closest star to us is over 40 lightyears away, and even if Aliens did manage to acheieve some form of interstellar flight, the likely hood of them visiting our small, insignificant planet in our small, insignificant solar system seems about as likely as fitting an Elephant through the eye of a needle.
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I wasn't going to dignify this stupid *** thread with an answer, but...

"Space," it says, "is big. Really big. You just won't believe how vastly hugely mindbogglingly big it is. I mean you may think it's a long way down the road to the chemist, but that's just peanuts to space" - The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy.



Even with the unlimited amount of number of possible Alien life-forms out there, the fact remains that the closest star to us is over 40 lightyears away, and even if Aliens did manage to acheieve some form of interstellar flight, the likely hood of them visiting our small, insignificant planet in our small, insignificant solar system seems about as likely as fitting an Elephant through the eye of a needle.
It's actually about 4 light years away, but who's counting? And if our nearest neighbor is as interested in exploration and alien life as we are, and they are looking for signs of it (e.g. scanning the heavens for radio waves), of course they'd want to come here and take all of our food.
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SENTIENT LIFE FORMS FROM ANOTHER PLANET.

That's an alien. Trollagain lululululul
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Old 08-12-2009, 06:18 PM #52
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For some reason I think that if Aliens came to Earth which would have required some very advanced technology they would have built items far more advanced than Stonehenge/Pyramids etc. To me that's like Engineers without borders going to a poor African country and building an advanced mud hutt, just because it's an improvement on the current tools/materials of the time doesn't mean it's out of the reach of humans.

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Oh? So you know if aliens have visited us? Please tell, Mr. Scientist.
No I don't know if aliens have visited us. However, you said that there's no possible way to know what has happened in the Earth's past. You were wrong, I said so, end of story.
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Old 08-12-2009, 06:29 PM #54
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Maybe. I mean it does seem like a lot of wasted "space" if nothing else is out there.
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No I don't know if aliens have visited us. However, you said that there's no possible way to know what has happened in the Earth's past. You were wrong, I said so, end of story.
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i would love to know how the tiwanakus of bolivia carved stone that is only able to be cut by diamond tipped machines were able to build an entire temple out of this stone

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i would love to know how the tiwanakus of bolivia carved stone that is only able to be cut by diamond tipped machines were able to build an entire temple out of this stone
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And didn't they build/carve on sandstone?
I know there were feats that make you go hmm, but the real question was how they were able to ferry such great slabs (some weighing something like 100 tons) to the site or across that (in)famous lake.
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If you deny their being a God because of no reason or evidence to believe so, why would you believe in aliens when there is no credible evidence to even suggest their existence?
You are a ****ing retard. Get out, now.
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And didn't they build/carve on sandstone?
I know there were feats that make you go hmm, but the real question was how they were able to ferry such great slabs (some weighing something like 100 tons) to the site or across that (in)famous lake.
i believe most of the stones they have were sandstone, but i thought i remember briefly watching something on either discovery or the science channel about some of the blocks being made of a rock that was only able to be cut with diamond tipped tools and they were cut perfectly straight in mostly in the shape of H's

could be a completely different culture but my memory isnt serving me very well right now

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SENTIENT LIFE FORMS FROM ANOTHER PLANET.

That's an alien. Trollagain lululululul
Whoa, just had a weird thought.

Lets expand that a bit. Couldn't "sentient life forms" basically just be simplified as "intelligence"? I mean, if some crystalline formation in some part galaxy developed the ability to have a conversation, we'd call it "alien", but it may not fall into our definitions of the word "life".

Now "from another planet" is rather limiting. Alien intelligence wouldn't necessarily have to develop on a planet. Asteroids, interstellar gas clouds, in the outer layers of stars, all possible (if highly improbable) places where some sort of chemical/electrical/physical mechanism might somehow form the ability to think "I am". So how about instead of "from another planet" how about "not from Earth"? Same basic idea, but open to a few more possibilities.

So, we end up with "Intelligence not from Earth". Hmm..."Intelligence not of this Earth" is a bit more poetic, with the same meaning. Lets run with that for a while.

Now, wouldn't a god fit into that definition? It would have intelligence (not counting some early "force of nature" deities), and most of the major ones are considered older than the Earth, and thus can't be from the Earth. Of course, the big capitol "G" deities are considered older than the universe. So would that be the big distinguisher? A alien is "intelligence not of this Earth", while a god is "intelligence not of this universe"? Hmmm...food for thought.
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No I don't know if aliens have visited us. However, you said that there's no possible way to know what has happened in the Earth's past. You were wrong, I said so, end of story.
No, this thread is about alien visitation. I said, "There is no possible way to know what happened thousands of years ago let alone billions."

Get your facts straight.
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Old 08-13-2009, 05:17 AM #62
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do aliens exist?

yes. almost 100%.

have they EVER since earth has had the capacity of maintaining LIQUID WATER visited eath?

a definitive NO.

for ANYONE to claim that earth ( during human cognition ) has been visited by extra terrestrial life requires an EXTREME leap of logic.

1) Inhabbitable planets.
they are simply too far away for travel between to be reasonable.
worm holes ( IF they exist ) are simply short cuts.... NOT magical transporters. a worm hole between us and the FARTHEST possible planet in the universe would cut travel time down to 2/Pi (64%) travel time.
and if you want to assume that aliens can travel at the speed of light or FASTER then you are basing an assumption on absolutely nothing.

2) so maybe we need to change the definition of inhabitable?
maybe this alien life form does not require constant liquid water to survive and develope from a single cell to a cognizant space traveling being.

unfeasable. I know that single cell organisms like this have been found but not going to google research right now.and it would be more feasable to say that every human being posting on PBN right now will win the next local lottery then to say that complex cognizant life forms could evolve and survive in this climate.

3) maybe these aliens live farther away but live for thousands of years.

not going to go into this. no evidence of any animal speciese comming near this life span.

if you ignore evidence found here on earth then you might as well assume that captain caveman and ****ing harry potter are doing battle on planet zathura against the invading jedi forces. because this LITERALLY is just as scientifically valid and reasonably feasable as the idea that alien life has visited earth within humanitys life time.

the ONLY reason I say "within humanitys life time" is because it is QUITE possible that mars was at one point inhabitable. but earth would not have even had liquid water at that point so we would not have even existed as single cell organisms yet.

sorry gang.... but aliens have NEVER visited earth during human existance and never will ( assuming we as a speciese do not survive indefinitely )


oh yah...... except for the anunnaki who currently inhabit earth and control all facets of human existance under the guise of religion, science, and politics.
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