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Old 07-12-2009, 01:07 AM #1
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midblock vs halfblock

i've decided to either midblock or halfblock my lightning.. I gave up on saving to make a superstock, because it wouldn't be much better than what i have now..and i would be spending way too much money to do so.

I have some ideas for the sled if i were to half block it..

i have some ideas for the back end of the body if i midblock it.

i also plan on midgeting it.

i was wondering based on experience and preferences of anybody out there, which would be the wiser of the two?

does midblocking have downsides to it? does halfblocking? will combining either with midgeting as well cause problems?

I plan on contacting JCurt on mcb when i decide what i would like to do.
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Old 07-12-2009, 01:24 AM #2
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they will do the exact same thing...

the only diference would be weight and looks

the half block being the lighter of the 2

the midblock would allow for custom milling on the top tube

sometimes you have to cut down your main spring after midgeting
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Old 07-12-2009, 01:33 AM #3
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i think half blocking looks ghetto
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Old 07-12-2009, 01:43 AM #4
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i think half blocking looks ghetto
this^

it takes away from nicely milled bodies
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Old 07-12-2009, 02:07 AM #5
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messed with it on paint for a while, came up with this

midgeted, midblocked (like you said) and removed the funky fin on top

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Old 07-12-2009, 02:08 AM #6
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I like midblocks better. or something in between the two, like the Falcon production model...
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Old 07-12-2009, 02:12 AM #7
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nice midblock without the midget would be the nicest.

if you want the cheapest best looking option then a halfblock without midgeting would be the best.

midgeting is junk because you have to cut springs and what not unless you mq it!!!!
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Old 07-12-2009, 02:27 AM #8
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an idea is brewing insisde my head

edit: forgot the bult pin but what ever, back block sled reshaped to look cooler


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Old 07-12-2009, 11:35 AM #9
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midgeting is junk because you have to cut springs and what not unless you mq it!!!!
i definitley never thought of that. i was sure i was able to put in a lighter main spring and it would do the trick. Thanks for the heads up. no midgeting for me.

i'm going to half block my 2k3 vert (nasty etching of "billy dwyer" on it, so the half block will ultimately get rid of it. And mist likely will midblock my lightning.

ps. washington has mad paint skills. lol.

this is what i came up with in PS..


it's between this or a basic half circle milled off the back (like a superstock body). And hopefully i can get exact measurements to send off ot jcurt to get a half circle milled that will actually fit the superstock halfblock..just so i can switch to having a back block if i really wanted.

i wasn't sure if i could use part of the body taht was milled off to make the sled, but i made it anyways. Hopefully i am able to do that. if not..then i guess i'll just go with the basic sled.
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Old 07-12-2009, 04:46 PM #10
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midblocking has less reciprocating mass, no bloc peice, only a sled. a half block has the block around the end of hthe bolt and a sled. however, for pump does it matter?

does what looks best to you.

personally, your midblock photoshop is dead sexy. do that.
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Midblocking offers you a chance to keep your gun closer to your body, and have an overall tighter setup.
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Old 07-12-2009, 10:20 PM #12
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I like my midblock. Only pain is getting the damn sled in place. Always feel like I'm going to break my pump rod...
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Old 07-13-2009, 04:20 AM #13
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midblocking has less reciprocating mass, no bloc peice, only a sled. a half block has the block around the end of hthe bolt and a sled. however, for pump does it matter?

does what looks best to you.

personally, your midblock photoshop is dead sexy. do that.
Actually few halfblocks have full hoop backblocks, most run sleds.
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Old 07-13-2009, 04:21 AM #14
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Midblocking offers you a chance to keep your gun closer to your body, and have an overall tighter setup.
Not compared to halfblocking ... which is the comparison here.
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Old 07-13-2009, 06:24 AM #15
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Fatal, your top photoshop pic looks just like a ICD Promaster. Either way they both would look nice.
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Old 07-13-2009, 09:30 AM #16
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Not compared to halfblocking ... which is the comparison here.
In overall gun size and weight, you're right. But Halfblocking offers no tighter a package than midblocking... which you know. Anyway, my point was that both midblocking and halfblocking offer a tighter, closer gun.
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Old 07-13-2009, 02:20 PM #17
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Here is what it would look like haflblocked.

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Old 07-14-2009, 10:47 PM #18
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i love tht pump lyndon
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Old 07-15-2009, 12:33 AM #19
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Fatal, your top photoshop pic looks just like a ICD Promaster. Either way they both would look nice.
lol, thats the first thing i thought of... "oh crap...this looks too much like an ICD gat". I'm thinking about just doing the half circle off the back instead of the one i have posted up above. Or i can go halfblock and get rid of the fin completely. If i midblock it and get the fin milled off...i think it will look kinda funny. So i'm thinking i'm just gonna halfblock it.
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Old 07-15-2009, 06:22 AM #20
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most bodies look better as halfblocks over midblocks, because without a backblock most bodies dont flow well

the midblocked S6 my friend has proves that to me

some millings looks better with a backblock, and even if its a halfblock it seems to flow better than a mid


but personally i think midblocking is better due to the bolt being enclosed in the tube the whole time in the stroke(well some midblocks had short top tubes, but i think those are more halfs than mids)
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