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Old 06-08-2009, 04:37 PM #1
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Need help....board issue???

ok....I will be as detailed as possible.

Bought online......ebay queen. found out that the board is an old WAS board

Dryfired fine, no leaks, no issues, couldnt turn eyes off to test programed settings - replaced battery

Reset board - still cant turn eyes off

Played first game with it, fresh battery in gun and hopper (Vlocity Jr) - chops like mad after 3rd-4th ball on psp (15bps cap) - dropped dwell down

Caught in rain at game - board wouldnt turn off, pulled battery and dried board as well as possible

Board wont turn on sometimes - changed battery again

board still having issues turning on and chopping even after a second reset

now board wont turn on at all

My question is - Could all of these issues be from a faulty wire harness, or should I expect there to be multiple issues at work here?

I am tempted to just send the marker back to Infinity and have them upgrade it to a Tadao board as well as replace the harness.
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Old 06-08-2009, 06:24 PM #2
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Dryfired fine, no leaks, no issues, couldnt turn eyes off to test programed settings - replaced battery

Reset board - still cant turn eyes off
if you are able to fire the marker without paint (dryfire), that tells me the eyes are off???


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Caught in rain at game - board wouldnt turn off, pulled battery and dried board as well as possible
good idea

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Board wont turn on sometimes - changed battery again

board still having issues turning on and chopping even after a second reset

now board wont turn on at all
the board not turning on may be an issue with the wiring harness.

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My question is - Could all of these issues be from a faulty wire harness, or should I expect there to be multiple issues at work here?
the chopping issue can have multiple causes:
-ball detents
-paint/barrel match
-paint quality
-lowering the dwell wont help with chopping issues. leave it at 10

also read these
http://www.pbnation.com/showthread.php?t=2649521

http://www.pbnation.com/showthread.php?t=2494282

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I am tempted to just send the marker back to Infinity and have them upgrade it to a Tadao board as well as replace the harness.
a tadao board is a worthwhile investment for the legend.
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Old 06-08-2009, 08:13 PM #3
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Since you bought it off of Ebay, I wonder if the previous owner accidentally put in one of the eyes backwards. Don't ask me how I know, LOL.
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Old 06-08-2009, 09:50 PM #4
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if you are able to fire the marker without paint (dryfire), that tells me the eyes are off???
I used a piece of soft foam to block the eyes when I tested the gun out to bypass the eyes.


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the chopping issue can have multiple causes:
-ball detents
-paint/barrel match
-paint quality
-lowering the dwell wont help with chopping issues. leave it at 10
-the ball detents are in great shape.
-it is a .698 barrel, it is overbored if anything
-paint quality was crap but it was very stiff shell, much like monsterball
-after reseting the board I figured the only other thing that might be causing the issue is the dwell keeping enough airflow in the chamber to stall the next ball from loading (ie, chopping in the feed neck)

I do thank you for the links you game me, I will take a look at the feedneck and see if it is misshapen as it suggests.

is there a possiblity that the faulty harness could cause the chops as well? (such as inconsistant relay of timing, false eye signal, or some other type of short)

I am just curious if this is an issue I should do myself or just send it to Infinity and let them deal with it.

(BTW I have been working of my teams markers for about 5 years so this kind of project doesnt bother me, I just dont want to waste time if it needs to go back to the shop anyways for a full overhaul.)

thanx for the help so far, you have given me a few things to look at.
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Old 06-08-2009, 11:54 PM #5
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is there a possiblity that the faulty harness could cause the chops as well? (such as inconsistant relay of timing, false eye signal, or some other type of short)
with the older wire harnesses, the 9v leads either separated from the plug that connects to the board, or something was faulty on the battery connector (which is why it wont turn on sometimes). i have never traced the cause of chopping issues back to a faulty wire harness.

also, how long are you holding down the button to turn off the eyes? try holding it down for slightly longer periods of time, and see if that helps.
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Old 06-09-2009, 12:08 AM #6
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with the older wire harnesses, the 9v leads either separated from the plug that connects to the board, or something was faulty on the battery connector (which is why it wont turn on sometimes). i have never traced the cause of chopping issues back to a faulty wire harness.

also, how long are you holding down the button to turn off the eyes? try holding it down for slightly longer periods of time, and see if that helps.
I was holding it for up to 30 seconds on some attempts...... I am quite sure the harness is bad. I was just holding out hope that the chopping might not be a second issue to deal with and that it could all be blamed on W.A.S., I have never liked their products.........

I guess when I swap the board I should see if the problem goes away. I have never had a speedball gun that couldnt go back to factory settings even after the Tourny lock was turned off........

Thank you again for all your help, let me know if you can think of anything else I should look into. I am left scratching my head over this........
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hmm, that may be a board problem. if you can hold the button for 30 seconds and it doesnt turn off...

getting a tadao board will definitely be an improvement over the old WAS board. better eye logic, more menu options and adjustability.

you can order these items from infinity and have them send it to you, but i would suggest sending it in and have them install it at the factory. let them know about the chopping issue, so they can give it a once-over and have it up and running for you.
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Old 06-09-2009, 01:54 AM #8
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hmm, that may be a board problem. if you can hold the button for 30 seconds and it doesnt turn off...

getting a tadao board will definitely be an improvement over the old WAS board. better eye logic, more menu options and adjustability.

you can order these items from infinity and have them send it to you, but i would suggest sending it in and have them install it at the factory. let them know about the chopping issue, so they can give it a once-over and have it up and running for you.
agreed..... I will let them get the grey hair over this one......gotta pick your battles.....lol
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