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Old 04-29-2009, 10:31 PM #22
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his name was barry seal, feel free to look him up.
I see using him in a sting operation against the nicaroguan government.
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Old 04-29-2009, 11:10 PM #23
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Going by this logic, crack shouldn't have any more of a severe penalty, because incarcerating people costs the state an unbelievable amount of money.
Did I mention the state is racist?
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Old 04-29-2009, 11:12 PM #24
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Did I mention the state is racist?
sounds like this is becoming a big ad hoc conspiracy.

at some point, isn't there a simpler explanation?
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Old 04-29-2009, 11:30 PM #25
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Old 04-29-2009, 11:40 PM #26
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"The biggest drug smuggler in American History was a CIA Agent."

http://www.idfiles.com/cia-linked-to-seal-death.htm
Informant =/ agent.
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Old 04-30-2009, 04:38 AM #27
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Probably because crack, unlike cocaine, destroyed whole communities. I don't know how old a lot of you are, but the crack epidemic was pretty well covered when I was a kid in the news.
Cocaine and Crack are basically the same exact thing, just Crack is cheaper and is taken differently. The reason why it 'destroyed' communities is because of how cheap it was. Cocaine didn't ruin entire communities because the people doing coke were the people working in high rise office buildings making 6 figures, or movie stars.

And yes, this isn't news; Our drug laws are way out of whack. As Shaka pointed out, thank Reagen.
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Going by this logic, crack shouldn't have any more of a severe penalty, because incarcerating people costs the state an unbelievable amount of money.
Because throwing the poor, the uneducated, and the helpless in jail along with petty criminals... will never fail to get a politician elected.
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Old 04-30-2009, 04:46 AM #29
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Wasn't Nixon the one who originally declared war on drugs? Granted, Reagan was the one who created the crack-specific laws (crack surfaced during his administration), but you can blame the drug debacle on every president since the 20's.
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Old 04-30-2009, 11:06 AM #30
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Wasn't Nixon the one who originally declared war on drugs? Granted, Reagan was the one who created the crack-specific laws (crack surfaced during his administration), but you can blame the drug debacle on every president since the 20's.
Yes, but I believe Reagan was the one who actually ramped up it to the full scale war it is today. Don't quote me on that though.
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Old 04-30-2009, 09:10 PM #31
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Cocaine and Crack are basically the same exact thing, just Crack is cheaper and is taken differently. The reason why it 'destroyed' communities is because of how cheap it was. Cocaine didn't ruin entire communities because the people doing coke were the people working in high rise office buildings making 6 figures, or movie stars.

And yes, this isn't news; Our drug laws are way out of whack. As Shaka pointed out, thank Reagen.
Exactly, hence the probability why its got a harsher penalty. More easily made, distributed, and accessible.
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Old 04-30-2009, 10:00 PM #32
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Exactly, hence the probability why its got a harsher penalty. More easily made, distributed, and accessible.
So why doesn't marijuana carry a harsher sentence? It's the "gateway drug", after all.
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Every time I see the title, i read "crack powered cocaine". Just thought i'd share.
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Man, I can't believe I ****ed up the title. It's meant to be "powdered".
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Old 05-01-2009, 06:50 AM #35
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So why doesn't marijuana carry a harsher sentence? It's the "gateway drug", after all.
Because while it does have net negative effects, it didn't have that complete destruction that crack did on whole neighborhoods.
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Btw, crack is cheaper and more powerful than it's powdered counterpart. Does it warrant penalties a 100x harsher? No, of course not (anyone that pays attention to my posts know I favor zero punishment for personal drug use/possession alone anyway), but it certainly is a bigger threat.


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THe idea is that cocaine = the rich white man's drug and thus suffers less of a penalty.
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THe idea is that cocaine = the rich white man's drug and thus suffers less of a penalty.
What do you mean no? What does that have to do with what I posted? I never discussed the reasons behind the penalties, merely that it's cheaper and more powerful, thus a stronger response makes sense in my mind (just not a 100x more...).

You seem to have an infatuation with stalking me and trying to call me out. You keep on failing pretty hard though... try working on your reading comprehension and staying on topic.
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What do you mean no? What does that have to do with what I posted? I never discussed the reasons behind the penalties, merely that it's cheaper and more powerful, thus a stronger response makes sense in my mind (just not a 100x more...).

You seem to have an infatuation with stalking me and trying to call me out. You keep on failing pretty hard though... try working on your reading comprehension and staying on topic.

How is crack a "bigger threat" than cocaine?

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How is crack a "bigger threat" than cocaine?

Please, do tell.
Its more addictive, the high doesn't last as long so you use it more often, its less expensive which leads to easier access are the first things that come to my mind. Don't get me wrong, coke isn't anything to play around with either, but crack is surely more dangerous and a bigger threat.
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Its more addictive, the high doesn't last as long so you use it more often, its less expensive which leads to easier access are the first things that come to my mind. Don't get me wrong, coke isn't anything to play around with either, but crack is surely more dangerous and a bigger threat.
yep, that and people that do crack will more likely do way stupider **** compared to those who do coke.

and my friend didn't get 5 years and he got caught with an ounce of base. when will you guys understand that the courts try to give you a break?
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yep, that and people that do crack will more likely do way stupider **** compared to those who do coke.

and my friend didn't get 5 years and he got caught with an ounce of base. when will you guys understand that the courts try to give you a break?
Only if you're white, it seems.
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