Are the upgraded bolts still Anti-Chop?

OneFeather · 03-23-2009, 08:01 AM

Would the installation of a TechT or a Deadlywind bolt still maintain the anti-chop feature of the stock one? Or, would one need to upgrade the board to get eyes at the same time?

[NA]WARLORD · 03-23-2009, 10:31 AM

Or you could get a faster loader that will surpass the firing rate of your current board.

theCanadian · 03-23-2009, 11:00 AM

The anti chop feature is in the solenoid, not the bolt, so you don't have to worry.

prettylou · 03-23-2009, 11:15 AM

Correct, its not the bolt.

LYNRDSKYNRD · 03-23-2009, 11:20 AM

Sorry if this off topic---but what is the advantage of an aftermarket bolt if you have a stock board?

theCanadian · 03-23-2009, 12:43 PM

A very small gain in efficiency, it changes the way the marker sounds, and that's about it. To be honest your money can be best spent elsewhere.

LYNRDSKYNRD · 03-23-2009, 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by theCanadian

A very small gain in efficiency, it changes the way the marker sounds, and that's about it. To be honest your money can be best spent elsewhere.

'preciate it Bud--

@ the OP sorry for the thread hijack.

Calculon The Great · 03-23-2009, 06:06 PM

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A very small gain in efficiency, it changes the way the marker sounds, and that's about it. To be honest your money can be best spent elsewhere.

Exactly. I would say though that the L7 bolt with a stock board will significantly reduce the sound signature, which is already quite low with the stock bolt. But that's it.

I honestly put one in my SP-1 only because when I turned my SP-8 internals into EOS internals I could not use the L7 bolt with that set-up anymore, so I got a new bolt stop and put it in my SP-1 instead. It was either that or the L7 sitting in my spare parts bin.

But YES you do keep the "anti-chop tech". I can shoot the most brittle of tourney paints (like Draxxus Gold) at full-auto and get 0 chops or breaks. Quite an amazing feat for a gun with no eyes.

OneFeather · 03-24-2009, 09:00 AM

Thanks much to everyone for the help. I am new to Ions and Ion descendants.

Great discussion.

Faker · 03-28-2009, 12:49 PM

I changed my SP1 to the Deadlywind bolt because the stock bolt assembly got all scratched and threaded because of a fitting scratching it inside while I unscrewed it. The DW bolt assembly has a narrower profile and it doesn't scrape along the screw (banjo fitting). I got the new bolt for the same price as sending my gun to Smart Parts for repair, just to keep a stock gun... talk about lame service.

allgrownup · 03-31-2009, 07:10 PM

It is my understanding the bolt would never scrape. It rides on the oring, and never touches metal. SP1's work just like Ion, see animation below. Most bolt scratches come from debris I would guess. Sean could answer better.

allgrownup · 03-31-2009, 07:23 PM

chaibill · 04-06-2009, 10:18 PM

He i writing about the bolt sleeve not the bolt. It does get sratched to **** when you take it out as it does on mine and his and maybe 40% of other
sp-1's. Sean claims to not know what we are talking about and says just send it back to smart parts.

So does the L7 come with a new bolt sleeve? i don't see it in the pics
http://www.techtpaintball.com/ionbolt.html

theCanadian · 04-06-2009, 10:32 PM

The L7 does not come with a new bolt sleeve/ back cap.

The Hollow point comes with a stalk that replaces the stock bolt sleeve/back cap.

chaibill · 04-06-2009, 10:41 PM

is the hollow point as light as the L7?

theCanadian · 04-06-2009, 10:48 PM

I think so, actually, but only by some minuscule amount.

If I remember correctly though, the hollowpoint has higher flow, which is just as important as weight.

In your situation I would go with the Hollowpoint.

chaibill · 04-06-2009, 10:51 PM

ok thanks. i really want to quiet the sp1 and the bolt sleeve is a pain.

chaibill · 04-06-2009, 11:02 PM

i like the deadly wind and don't need to add any thing L7 recommends QEV.

[NA]WARLORD · 04-06-2009, 11:11 PM

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Originally Posted by chaibill

ok thanks. i really want to quiet the sp1 and the bolt sleeve is a pain.

Change the barrel to an All American or Freak with AA tip, that will also help quiet the SP-1.

prettylou · 04-07-2009, 01:00 AM

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Originally Posted by chaibill

He i writing about the bolt sleeve not the bolt. It does get sratched to **** when you take it out as it does on mine and his and maybe 40% of other
sp-1's. Sean claims to not know what we are talking about and says just send it back to smart parts.

So does the L7 come with a new bolt sleeve? i don't see it in the pics
http://www.techtpaintball.com/ionbolt.html

The problem is your tightening the back screw to much and its protruding into the bolt sleeve. Just back that screw off a bit .

#1WoodsBaller · 04-07-2009, 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by [NA]WARLORD

Change the barrel to an All American or Freak with AA tip, that will also help quiet the SP-1.

I agree--I put a Freak tipped 14 inch on my sons SP-1 last weekend and it was alot quiter that the stock barrel or the Lapco Bigshot (no porting but a great barrel) that he usually uses.