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Old 03-23-2009, 08:01 AM #1
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Are the upgraded bolts still Anti-Chop?

Would the installation of a TechT or a Deadlywind bolt still maintain the anti-chop feature of the stock one? Or, would one need to upgrade the board to get eyes at the same time?
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Old 03-23-2009, 10:31 AM #2
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Or you could get a faster loader that will surpass the firing rate of your current board.
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Old 03-23-2009, 11:00 AM #3
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The anti chop feature is in the solenoid, not the bolt, so you don't have to worry.
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Old 03-23-2009, 11:15 AM #4
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Correct, its not the bolt.
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Old 03-23-2009, 11:20 AM #5
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Sorry if this off topic---but what is the advantage of an aftermarket bolt if you have a stock board?
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Old 03-23-2009, 12:43 PM #6
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A very small gain in efficiency, it changes the way the marker sounds, and that's about it. To be honest your money can be best spent elsewhere.
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Old 03-23-2009, 01:19 PM #7
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A very small gain in efficiency, it changes the way the marker sounds, and that's about it. To be honest your money can be best spent elsewhere.
'preciate it Bud--

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Old 03-23-2009, 06:06 PM #8
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A very small gain in efficiency, it changes the way the marker sounds, and that's about it. To be honest your money can be best spent elsewhere.
Exactly. I would say though that the L7 bolt with a stock board will significantly reduce the sound signature, which is already quite low with the stock bolt. But that's it.

I honestly put one in my SP-1 only because when I turned my SP-8 internals into EOS internals I could not use the L7 bolt with that set-up anymore, so I got a new bolt stop and put it in my SP-1 instead. It was either that or the L7 sitting in my spare parts bin.

But YES you do keep the "anti-chop tech". I can shoot the most brittle of tourney paints (like Draxxus Gold) at full-auto and get 0 chops or breaks. Quite an amazing feat for a gun with no eyes.
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Old 03-24-2009, 09:00 AM #9
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Thanks much to everyone for the help. I am new to Ions and Ion descendants.

Great discussion.
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Old 03-28-2009, 12:49 PM #10
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I changed my SP1 to the Deadlywind bolt because the stock bolt assembly got all scratched and threaded because of a fitting scratching it inside while I unscrewed it. The DW bolt assembly has a narrower profile and it doesn't scrape along the screw (banjo fitting). I got the new bolt for the same price as sending my gun to Smart Parts for repair, just to keep a stock gun... talk about lame service.
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Old 03-31-2009, 07:10 PM #11
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It is my understanding the bolt would never scrape. It rides on the oring, and never touches metal. SP1's work just like Ion, see animation below. Most bolt scratches come from debris I would guess. Sean could answer better.
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Old 03-31-2009, 07:23 PM #12
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Old 04-06-2009, 10:18 PM #13
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He i writing about the bolt sleeve not the bolt. It does get sratched to **** when you take it out as it does on mine and his and maybe 40% of other
sp-1's. Sean claims to not know what we are talking about and says just send it back to smart parts.

So does the L7 come with a new bolt sleeve? i don't see it in the pics
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Old 04-06-2009, 10:32 PM #14
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The L7 does not come with a new bolt sleeve/ back cap.

The Hollow point comes with a stalk that replaces the stock bolt sleeve/back cap.

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Old 04-06-2009, 10:41 PM #15
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is the hollow point as light as the L7?
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Old 04-06-2009, 10:48 PM #16
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I think so, actually, but only by some minuscule amount.

If I remember correctly though, the hollowpoint has higher flow, which is just as important as weight.

In your situation I would go with the Hollowpoint.
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Old 04-06-2009, 10:51 PM #17
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ok thanks. i really want to quiet the sp1 and the bolt sleeve is a pain.
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Old 04-06-2009, 11:02 PM #18
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i like the deadly wind and don't need to add any thing L7 recommends QEV.
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Old 04-06-2009, 11:11 PM #19
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ok thanks. i really want to quiet the sp1 and the bolt sleeve is a pain.
Change the barrel to an All American or Freak with AA tip, that will also help quiet the SP-1.
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Old 04-07-2009, 01:00 AM #20
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He i writing about the bolt sleeve not the bolt. It does get sratched to **** when you take it out as it does on mine and his and maybe 40% of other
sp-1's. Sean claims to not know what we are talking about and says just send it back to smart parts.

So does the L7 come with a new bolt sleeve? i don't see it in the pics
http://www.techtpaintball.com/ionbolt.html
The problem is your tightening the back screw to much and its protruding into the bolt sleeve. Just back that screw off a bit .
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Old 04-07-2009, 11:10 AM #21
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Change the barrel to an All American or Freak with AA tip, that will also help quiet the SP-1.
I agree--I put a Freak tipped 14 inch on my sons SP-1 last weekend and it was alot quiter that the stock barrel or the Lapco Bigshot (no porting but a great barrel) that he usually uses.
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