Find fields & stores near you!
Find fields and stores
Zipcode
PbNation News
PbNation News
Community Focus
Community Focus

 
Archived Thread - Cannot Edit  
Old 02-24-2001, 11:29 PM #1
Deceit
What?
 
Deceit's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2001
Deceit is a Supporting Member
 has been a member for 10 years
Unhappy

you know what sucks

when your ram breaks for no apperent reason and no i didnt put my pin behind the ram. I talked to a bunch of air smiths this is the first time they have seen something like this. oh well someone post something...
__________________
Mike
Deceit is offline  
Old 02-25-2001, 12:21 AM #2
timebomb
RAZALIFE.COM
 
timebomb's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2001
Location: San Diego, CA
Annual Supporting Member
timebomb is a Supporting Member
timebomb is a founding member
 has been a member for 10 years
timebomb works for a Paintball manufacturer
timebomb donated to help Peyton Trent
Angry

Wow that's really messed up...did it cause any internal damage to the gun itself? I hope repairs weren't to hefty...
__________________
timebomb is offline  
Old 02-25-2001, 01:09 AM #3
JRM
WEAR IT!
 
JRM's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2001
Location: US MF'in A
Annual Supporting Member
JRM is a Supporting Member
JRM is a founding member
JRM is a Professional paintball player
JRM plays in the PSP
JRM plays in the APPA Pro division
JRM supports Empire
Yes, this is a known problem of earlier model BM2K's.

Could you tell me the serial number is on this or when you bought it? The earlier BM2k's and Defiants had problems with rams snapping and breaking, however ICD quickly took action. Sounds like yours has held its ground awhile. Just call up ICD and they'll probably send you a new ram, sorry if you lost/lose playing time.

Good luck,
Jeff
__________________
Texas STORM
#64
JRM is offline  
Old 02-25-2001, 03:07 AM #4
sperm1369
Never Forget-POW MIA
 
sperm1369's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2001
Location: The 801
sperm1369 is a Supporting Member
 has been a member for 10 years
Yes and ICD has great customer service, Plus There turnaround time is great if you ever need to send your marker in for service

Josh
sperm1369 is offline  
Old 02-25-2001, 03:44 PM #5
Deceit
What?
 
Deceit's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2001
Deceit is a Supporting Member
 has been a member for 10 years
Unhappy reply

yeah all is well gave it to a airsmith to get it checked out and no internal damage. but thanks for the concern.
__________________
Mike
Deceit is offline  
Old 02-25-2001, 03:58 PM #6
KeysonicRT
 
 
Join Date: Feb 2001
Location: Tx
 has been a member for 10 years
JRM, you work for ICD? Just wondering, or are you just a really nice person? "sorry if you lost/lose playing time.

"
__________________
Go LF!
KeysonicRT is offline  
Old 02-25-2001, 04:12 PM #7
Novak Mark
Member #57 Or Something.
 
Novak Mark's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2001
Location: chi-town
 has been a member for 10 years
Thumper... what do you mean by broke? Did it literally break in two pieces, or does it just not work anymore?

Its good to re o-ring your ram every now and then. They take the same size o-rings as screw in tanks.
__________________
Mark Novak

Last edited by Novak Mark : 02-25-2001 at 04:30 PM.
Novak Mark is offline  
Old 02-25-2001, 04:17 PM #8
Deceit
What?
 
Deceit's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2001
Deceit is a Supporting Member
 has been a member for 10 years
Arrow explanation

you know where the ram head screwes into the ram rod. that little screw broke in half. the pin was in the right place too no damage to the gun or anything. wierd huh? got a airsmith to look at it and he said everything is perfect except for that little screw he said its the first time hes seen anything like this.
__________________
Mike
Deceit is offline  
Old 02-25-2001, 04:31 PM #9
Novak Mark
Member #57 Or Something.
 
Novak Mark's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2001
Location: chi-town
 has been a member for 10 years
I've never heard of anything like that happening.

So its being fixed now?
__________________
Mark Novak
Novak Mark is offline  
Old 02-25-2001, 04:56 PM #10
Deceit
What?
 
Deceit's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2001
Deceit is a Supporting Member
 has been a member for 10 years
Talking .

yeah i havent either

but yeah the parts are coming in today
__________________
Mike
Deceit is offline  
Old 02-25-2001, 08:33 PM #11
Mercalez
Moderator
 
Mercalez's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2001
Location: Yuma, AZ
Mercalez is a Supporting Member
 has been a member for 10 years
I've heard of this happening once and maybe a titanium ram would be of use??? =))Theres another project Eaton. Titanium ram shaft. Or White Wolf? *Wink* *Wink*
__________________
Red 1.0 Dark LCD
I am a Marine.
Semper Fi

!
Become a Supporting Member. Click here!
Back in the states..good to be back -_-
Mercalez is offline  
Old 02-25-2001, 10:43 PM #12
sperm1369
Never Forget-POW MIA
 
sperm1369's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2001
Location: The 801
sperm1369 is a Supporting Member
 has been a member for 10 years
I really dont think Titanium is the answer, IMO it is to hard and the harder the metal the easier it is to break it, especially if it is cold. If someone was runnin CO2 this could definately be a problem, That and he said his ram never broke just the screw

just my .02 cents

Josh
sperm1369 is offline  
Old 02-25-2001, 11:12 PM #13
JRM
WEAR IT!
 
JRM's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2001
Location: US MF'in A
Annual Supporting Member
JRM is a Supporting Member
JRM is a founding member
JRM is a Professional paintball player
JRM plays in the PSP
JRM plays in the APPA Pro division
JRM supports Empire
Keysonic

I guess in your words I'm just a really nice person, I know how it feels to sit out and stuff, it's just no fun at all.
__________________
Texas STORM
#64
JRM is offline  
Old 02-26-2001, 04:57 PM #14
superannuated
 
 
Join Date: Feb 2001
Location: Southern California
 has been a member for 10 years
Titanium would seem to me to be a good, if expensive, solution to any breaking ram problems (I'm not any sort of expert, but I have read a little about it). Not only are titanium alloys quite lightweight, and exceptionally hard, but are also difficult to break (they are different from steel alloys this way). Titanium also has a "memory", so if it takes a hit from something else hard, it tends to return immediately to its original shape. As a result, it's hard to break, scratch and bend.

Price would be the problem, because even though titanium is a plentiful metal, the costs of working it are high.

It sounds like titanium alloy should make a lightweight,almost indestructible paintball gun body, grip, vertical feed, and (yes, I know Dye makes one) barrel. No more stripped machine screw threads in the body of the gun, very hard to scratch, you could fall on it and only break your ribs, not the gun. It would be expensive (but that hasn't stopped most of us yet), and I don't know what kind of finish you can put on it.

Regards,

Superannuated
superannuated is offline  
Old 02-26-2001, 10:34 PM #15
sperm1369
Never Forget-POW MIA
 
sperm1369's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2001
Location: The 801
sperm1369 is a Supporting Member
 has been a member for 10 years
Its a proven fact the harder the material the more brittle it is (I dropped a titanium valve from 2 feet onto concrete and shattered it)but when you get into alloys its a different story because it is mixed with other compounds to reach a desired strength and flexibility

Just my .02 cents
sperm1369 is offline  
Old 02-27-2001, 05:52 PM #16
superannuated
 
 
Join Date: Feb 2001
Location: Southern California
 has been a member for 10 years
Well, again I'm no expert, but my reading indicates that while iron, steel and aluminum are considered relatively brittle metals, titanium is not. Titanium is being used in a number of applications where lack of brittleness is important, such as golf clubs, bike frames, skis & snowboards, and armor for military vehicles (perhaps to help counteract those ultra-hard depleted uranium shells in current use).

I don't know how delicate the titanium valve you broke was, or whether it was some sort of alloy that was more brittle than usual, but unless I'm missing something, titanium alloys should be lighter, harder, have better tensile strength and have less brittleness than comparable steel or aluminum alloys.

That's why I wasn't joking when I suggested that a titanium-based paintball gun would be physically (if not financially) feasible.

Regards,

Superannuated
superannuated is offline  
Old 03-11-2001, 06:53 PM #17
BushWhacker2k
 
 
Join Date: Feb 2001
Location: Simi Valley,CA
 has been a member for 10 years
my ram broke just like they ways yours did. it really sux but i just sent the gun to icd and its all better now
BushWhacker2k is offline  
Old 05-05-2001, 05:53 PM #18
Deceit
What?
 
Deceit's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2001
Deceit is a Supporting Member
 has been a member for 10 years
Angry

it did it again and this time for no aparant reason no damgae to the ram head or anything what the hell is up?
__________________
Mike
Deceit is offline  
Old 05-06-2001, 04:15 AM #19
smurf
The Almighty Smurfzilla
 
smurf's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: orlando
 has been a member for 10 years
I had the same piece break too. $20 bucks from ICD. It was 2 years old, and that's the only thing ever to go down on it... I'm still happy. It's a first gen, serial #1102

smurf
smurf is offline  
Old 05-07-2001, 10:29 PM #20
Jeffchs2004
Team Thrash
 
Join Date: Apr 2001
 has been a member for 10 years
if ur LPR is up too high i heard this can be a way of making this happen. CHeck that
__________________
Claret Angel LCD

Team Thrash
Jeffchs2004 is offline  
Old 05-10-2001, 09:25 PM #21
Goldie D Pimp
VAPOR
 
Goldie D Pimp's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Kansas
Goldie D Pimp is a Supporting Member
 has been a member for 10 years
I believe the new style rams are different than the old ones. The old ones just screwed in to the end of the threads and stopped. The newer ones have the threads that start deeper inside the hammer so that the shaft sits down inside of the hammer a little more, protecting that weak area around the threads. And just so you know, someone is making aftermarket rams. They're in testing right now.
__________________
Sam "Goldie" Smock
Authorized ICD Tech
Owner Vaporworks Paintball
Vaporworks For all your ICD Product Needs!
Goldie D Pimp is offline  
 




Posting Rules
Forum Jump