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Old 12-07-2008, 09:48 PM #1
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custom grinding

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I recently got an epiphany that the previous owner had tried to dye the rubber parts and failed. It looks really dumb. I was thinkin about cuttingit off and doing some nice custom grinding on the gun. I have the proper metal working tools and skill. So the question I have is, if I grind of the finish, which is inevitable, do I need to do anything to the surface after Im done to finish it or just leave it? Thanks for the help.
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Old 12-07-2008, 09:54 PM #2
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grinding is such a harsh word, we perfer milling, you'll have to get it reanno'd when your done to get the colors to match
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Old 12-07-2008, 09:56 PM #3
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Sand/polish it...then get it re annoed or if you like the polished metal look then leave it like that.
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Old 12-07-2008, 09:59 PM #4
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grinding is such a harsh word, we perfer milling, you'll have to get it reanno'd when your done to get the colors to match
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I'm interested in seeing what the finished product looks like; I've never seen a custom milled epiphany...
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Old 12-07-2008, 09:59 PM #5
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whenever your done, use a fine grain sandpaper, like 2000 grit to smooth out the rough spots. then get some metal polish when your done.


but im going to tell you, doing something like this by hand...takes an extremely long time.
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Old 12-07-2008, 10:00 PM #6
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I know grinding is nasty. I just said grinding cuz ther will be alot of it. I am gonna try to smooth the body out as much as possible. I would like to leave it the metal colour so I willfinish sand everything so the colours all match. DoI need to have clear coat put on it or can it stay raw? Metal polish, is that not to just make it shine? Orwill it protect it?
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Old 12-07-2008, 10:01 PM #7
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Old 12-07-2008, 10:03 PM #8
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I know grinding is nasty. I just said grinding cuz ther will be alot of it. I am gonna try to smooth the body out as much as possible. I would like to leave it the metal colour so I willfinish sand everything so the colours all match. DoI need to have clear coat put on it or can it stay raw?
I'm not 100% sure, but it seems like you would have to. It'll keep it protected like other kinds of coatings do to wood, chain-link fencing, etc.
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Old 12-07-2008, 10:04 PM #9
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Whenever you do finish it, please post pics, as it would definantly be interesting to see. But I'd reanno it just to stay on the safe side if I were you.
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Old 12-07-2008, 10:05 PM #10
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yeah thats what i was thinking. I dont have much experience with aluminium so I wasnt sure what to do to the surface when im done.
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Old 12-07-2008, 10:06 PM #11
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its not milling. there is no mill involved. He was correct in calling it grinding. Once you are done, take the steps stated above to get it smooth, but your going to want to get something done to it to prevent the aluminum from oxidizing (anodizing or powdercoat are the best options.)
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Old 12-07-2008, 10:08 PM #12
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ok so the next question would be. Is there anywhere in Canada that can do a decent job of clear coating it? Any ideas?
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Old 12-07-2008, 10:20 PM #13
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THe epip is magnesium which i dotn think you can anno dize, so please leave it as is.
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Old 12-07-2008, 10:23 PM #14
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ok well if it cant be annoed what coating is on it now? Im not trying to be a prick. Imjust asking. How does the magnesium alloy react to the air? If i leave it uninished what will happen? I suppose that depends on the mixture of magnesium to the rest of the metals. Any help would be great. Thanks

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Old 12-07-2008, 10:39 PM #15
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Probably some sort of plating. You could get it powder coated or dura coated if you want.
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Old 12-07-2008, 10:43 PM #16
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Well I paid $90 including shipping for the gun and bnib halo b. Both work fine. So Ill give it a shot and keep looking for possibilities. I have 3 auto body shops around my shop and atleast 2 do powder coating soill talk to them. Ill take pictures through out the process and post up when im done. Christmas break is coming up shold get lots done. I tend to go all out on a project when i start so hopefully by the new year it will be almost done.
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Old 12-10-2008, 10:44 PM #17
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whatever you do, do not try grinding bro there is a hight possiblilty of that ****er lighting up like a christmas tree, magnesium and heat= bright *** fire
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Old 12-10-2008, 11:13 PM #18
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I dont know much about the epiphany, but I will second what brcbianchi said. Magnesium can be very dangerous, especially in powder form. Once it starts burning, it is almost impossible to put it out, and it is so hot that it can catch almost anything on fire, including aluminum shavings. I have seen it with my own eyes.

So if it is magnesium, and you are gonna grind it, please be extremely careful. Take it slow. Clean up after yourself every so often. Do not have any sorces of ignition in the area, including the sparks from an electric motor. The dust and shavings can get into it and the sparks are hot enough to ignite the magnesium.

With that being said, hope it turns out great. You will have to get a clear coat done, cause magnesium oxidizes pretty fast. Post pics when you are finished.
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Old 12-10-2008, 11:20 PM #19
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is anyone sure its mag cause i dont think smart parts would make a mag body for a cheaper marker
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Old 12-11-2008, 12:47 AM #20
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I'm not sure how much magnesium is in the gun, but yeah be careful... keep it away from rust and fire.

Magnesium + rust + flame=thermite, melts anything it touches... epiphany no so much anymore.
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Old 12-11-2008, 03:35 PM #21
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The manual says magnesium alloy body. Im not sure what percentage of magnesium there is in it. Warnings noted and appreciated. I may just get a couple of super coarse files and go to town by hand.
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