[pbmink]

i run and figured why not piss of V some more by making a legit thread

ask training and form work and all that legit stuff

might as well start with some info on myself

400-62
800-2:10
mile-4:39(full mile not 1600)
2 mile-9:32 (again full 2 mile)
5k track-14:53
5k road-15:14
5k xc-16:06 (woodward park)
mt sac 5k-16:01
4milexc-20:11

height-6'4
weight-140
shoe size 13

currently wearing nike skylons and mizuno alchemies
weartesting- nike mutumbo flats

[512]

6'4 140! Damn, I feel really, really, really skinny being 5'11 145ish

But on a serious note, I only do light cardio 2-3 times a week.

Around 20 minutes of jogging, nothing special.

[pbmink]

ya

[_V_ (Banned)]

Actually, I already suggested making a running thread to someone else earlier tonight. It was a very good try though.

[madgoat]

How much do you have to eat a day to maintain your current size? Since you are 6'4" and young you would already have to eat alot, and thats without the amount of calories you burn running....damn. Also, are you worried about your knee health when you are older?

[_V_ (Banned)]

Hes 140. Im damn near a foot shorter and weigh more. He doesnt need as many to maintain as we would need.

[512]

Mt Sac, thats in southern California right? One of my friends goes to that junior college.

[Featherlite 07]

Originally Posted by madgoat

How much do you have to eat a day to maintain your current size?

what size?

[madgoat]

Originally Posted by Featherlite 07

what size?

Guys lay off now, just because he doesn't have much muscle mass doesn't mean that he doesn't eat. At 6'4" and running that much, he has to pack down a SERIOUS amount of food.

[pbmink]

Originally Posted by madgoat

How much do you have to eat a day to maintain your current size? Since you are 6'4" and young you would already have to eat alot, and thats without the amount of calories you burn running....damn. Also, are you worried about your knee health when you are older?

im on a 5000 calorie diet right now thats 70% carbs
when track comes around and i am competing i will bump that up to 6000 calories with 65% from carbs
and ua, i already have bad joints. thats the reason i take glucosomine and chondrotion every morning. if i dont i feel the damage i have already done and running is painful.

if i dont eat at least 4500 calories a day i start loseing weight. when im not running and not eating as much my weight is about 129

Originally Posted by 512

Mt Sac, thats in southern California right? One of my friends goes to that junior college.

yep

Originally Posted by Featherlite 07

what size?

mind if i ask your leg press or standing calf raise?
leg press is 480
calf raise is 600

Originally Posted by madgoat

Guys lay off now, just because he doesn't have much muscle mass doesn't mean that he doesn't eat. At 6'4" and running that much, he has to pack down a SERIOUS amount of food.

thanks. and its not that i dont have muscle. its just that i dont have muscle mass. it dosent pay to build mass when i have to carry every extra ounce that much more in a race. i mean i can bench my body weight and squat 350

[512]

You run track/CC in college I'm guessing?

[madgoat]

Originally Posted by pbmink

im on a 5000 calorie diet right now thats 70% carbs
when track comes around and i am competing i will bump that up to 6000 calories with 65% from carbs
and ua, i already have bad joints. thats the reason i take glucosomine and chondrotion every morning. if i dont i feel the damage i have already done and running is painful.

if i dont eat at least 4500 calories a day i start loseing weight. when im not running and not eating as much my weight is about 129



yep


mind if i ask your leg press or standing calf raise?
leg press is 480
calf raise is 600



thanks. and its not that i dont have muscle. its just that i dont have muscle mass. it dosent pay to build mass when i have to carry every extra ounce that much more in a race. i mean i can bench my body weight and squat 350

Thats about what i assumed you had to eat. Do you eat alot of carbs for a reason, or because its the easiest macronutrient to eat alot of? Also, you're better off ignoring featherlite than questioning his strength as he can squat more than your leg press.

[Featherlite 07]

Originally Posted by pbmink

mind if i ask your leg press or standing calf raise?
leg press is 480
calf raise is 600

easy tough guy.

Leg press is more than the machine can hold.
Calf raise is until I get bored piling more plates on.

I typically lift free weights, in which case for legs I squat 600 and deadlift 550.

[flarkey25]

That mile time is legit...


But man, as good as you are at your sport, aren't you a bit worried about how difficult of a time you're going to have walking in like 15-20 years? That's really my main reason for avoiding long-distance running. (I ask because I don't know many long-distance runners, so I'd like to get your perspective.)

[madgoat]

Originally Posted by flarkey25

That mile time is legit...


But man, as good as you are at your sport, aren't you a bit worried about how difficult of a time you're going to have walking in like 15-20 years? That's really my main reason for avoiding long-distance running. (I ask because I don't know many long-distance runners, so I'd like to get your perspective.)

I basically already asked him that for the same reason as you. He said he already takes glucosimine condrontin(sp)

[flarkey25]

I'm asking what kind of things he's heard or may be worried about. Just so people can make up their minds about running. It's mostly for my own information.

[madgoat]

Originally Posted by pbmink

im on a 5000 calorie diet right now thats 70% carbs
when track comes around and i am competing i will bump that up to 6000 calories with 65% from carbs
and ua, i already have bad joints. thats the reason i take glucosomine and chondrotion every morning. if i dont i feel the damage i have already done and running is painful.

that was his answer when if he was worried about his knee health down the line

[pbmink]

Originally Posted by 512

You run track/CC in college I'm guessing?

kinda, ive been on 2 ncaa d1 teams and am currently coming back from a year of injuries so will be walking on to a team in the fall and running for a local community college come spring

Originally Posted by flarkey25

But man, as good as you are at your sport, aren't you a bit worried about how difficult of a time you're going to have walking in like 15-20 years? That's really my main reason for avoiding long-distance running. (I ask because I don't know many long-distance runners, so I'd like to get your perspective.)

the main thing with knee problems is wearing out of the cartlidge between the two bones. thats why every time i see people running with sub par footwear i cringe. they are the people that will run less yet have more knee pain down the line because the shoe just isnt built to withstand the forces of running. it might be a running shoe but in order for it to be quality i would say it should come from a specility running store that fits you and your stride. as for walking i know many coaches that are mid 60's and still walk and run fine. it is the people that dont take care of themselves with proper footwear or maybe glucosimine chondrotion that will have issues. i would also suggest not running on cement as much as possible since the force of running on it is more then double the force you put on your knee's if you run on trail or grass.

Originally Posted by madgoat

I basically already asked him that for the same reason as you. He said he already takes glucosimine condrontin(sp)

the glucosimine chondrotion is because i grew 11 inches in a year and my cartlidge still hasent caught up

Originally Posted by madgoat

Thats about what i assumed you had to eat. Do you eat alot of carbs for a reason, or because its the easiest macronutrient to eat alot of? Also, you're better off ignoring featherlite than questioning his strength as he can squat more than your leg press.

the carbs are because i need sustained energy for long periods of time. today i did a 17 mile run. the carbs are there to provide a nice cushon so i dont go into shock or run out of energy and begin to go anarobic. the fact its easy to eat alot of carbs is also a factor but wasent weighed heavily by my nutrinitist.

[xxxarsonist]

I wish I had OPs 2 mile time.

[Paint Freak 98]

Do you like Asics?

[element34575]

Originally Posted by pbmink

ya

I heard you were making fun of me

rofl