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Old 04-08-2008, 07:45 PM #1
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molex plug part numbers

I want to compile a list of part numbers for all major paintball gun electronic plugs in common use. I know some of the information is scattered around PBN, but one central list would be helpful.

I am requesting that anyone who has information post it in the following format:

Model (Make)
Application
Part#

so, for example
"Intimidator (BLAST)
14 pt harness
Molex 51110-1450-P,Digi-key part number WM18056-ND for the 14 space connector contacts"

Thanks to an old parisinflames7 post for information on Timmies in example. Thanks to everyone who provides information to expand this list. Thanks to Ydna for the sheer bulk of information provided.

I continue to update the original post as information accumulates. Please feel free to post here or pm me with corrections. Hopefully this will build into a resource that is helpful for all of us. My hope is that this list will be exhaustive and all inclusive, but that will likely require continuing effort as new products are released.

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Intimidator (BLAST)

14 pt harness
Molex 51110-1450-P
Digi-key part number WM18056-ND for the 14 space connector contacts

12-pt harness
Molex 51110-1250-P
Digi-key part number WM18056-ND for the 12 space connector contacts

crimp terminals (tape...not free bulk)
Molex part# 50394-8100

Ego (Eclipse)

solenoid male plug
JST, Zh Series connector...2 circuit
JST P# ZHR-2
digikey p# 455-1366-ND

breech sensor male plug
JST Zh series...4 circuit
JST P# ZHR-4
455-1202-ND

Eblade (Eclipse)

solenoid male plug
JST, Zh Series connector...2 circuit
JST P# ZHR-2
digikey p# 455-1366-ND

breech sensor male plug
JST Zh series...4 circuit
JST P# ZHR-4
455-1202-ND

Racegun Autococker Frame

Molex 51021-0200, 0400, and 0600

*50058 crimps for them are for 28-32 awg wire. If you want to use 26 awg wire (someone above recommended it) then you would want to use the 50079-8100 terminals*

Ion (Smart Parts)

mainboard, eye wire harness connector (1-mm pitch, eSH series, 4 point, top entry)
JST part# BM04B-SRSS-TB

eye board, eye wire harness connector (1-mm pitch, eSH series, 4 point, side entry)
JST part# SM04B-SRSS-TB

Crimp housing with protrusions JST part# SHR-04V-S-B

Shocker SFT & Nerve (Smart Parts)

wire harness connector (1-mm pitch, eSH series, 10 point, side-entry)
JST part# SM10B-SRSS-TB

Crimp housing with protrusions JST part# SHR-10V-S-B
No point in buying the terminal crimps for these....they're impossible to crimp without using the proper tool.

*Shocker/Nerve I-LEB beam-break mods use the same conector as the Ion eye board.*

Shocker/Nerve Predator board (Vaporware?)

secondary crimp housing (used for programming and beam-break eyes) JST 1.5-mm pitch, 4 point, side entry
part# ZHR-4

Crimp terminals (tape...not free bulk) JST part# SZH-003T-P0.5

Shocker Sport (Smart Parts)

solenoid connector (ePH series, 4 point, side entry)
JST part# S4B-PH-SM4-TB

intellifeed connector header (eBH series, 3 point)
JST part# SM03(4.0)B-BHS-1-TB

Shocker Sport HSW S-Frame
8-pin 2-mm pitch dual row connector
Molex part# 51110-0850

Impulse (Smart Parts)

solenoid connector, crimp housing (ePH series, 2 point, side entry)
JST part# PHR-2

Crimp terminal, JST part# SPH-002T-P0.5S

Morlock Boards

Original:
Hirose DF11-12DS-2C from Digikey

Alternate:
12-pt harness
Molex part# 51110-1250

terminals
Molex part# 50394-8100

NME (System X )

6 pin (2x3 point)
Molex part# 51110-0650

8 pin (2x4 point)
Molex part# 51110-0850

crimp terminal
Molex part# 50394-8100.

Viking (AKALMP)

2-pin Housing
Molex P\N 51021-0200

3-pin Housing
Molex P\N 51021-0300

Crimps
Molex P\N 50079-8100

Excalibur (AKALMP)

2-pin Housing
Molex P\N 51021-0200

3-pin Housing
Molex P\N 51021-0300

Crimps
Molex P\N 50079-8100

Marq/Closer/Onyx (BLAST)

Crimp housing 2 point
Molex part# 51021-0200

Crimp housing 3 point
Molex part# 51021-0300

Crimp housing 4 point
Molex part# 51021-0400

Crimp terminal
Molex part number 50058-8100

Quest (FEP)

solenoid plug (on battery harness)
Molex - 51021-0200

solenoid plug (solenoid end)
Molex - 51074-0200

eye wire (4-pin style)
JST - 455-1202-ND

eye wire (3-pin style)
?

Bushmaster (ICD)

12-pt harness
Molex part# 51110-1250

terminals
Molex part# 50394-8100

Freestyle (ICD)

12-pt harness
Molex part# 51110-1250

terminals
Molex part# 50394-8100

Droid (Mac Dev)

male plug
JST, Zh Series connector...2 circuit
JST P# ZHR-2
digikey p# 455-1366-ND

Cyborg (Mac Dev)

male plug
JST, Zh Series connector...2 circuit
JST P# ZHR-2
digikey p# 455-1366-ND

Angel A1 (Angel Paintball Sports)

solenoid male plug
JST, Zh Series connector...2 circuit
JST P# ZHR-2
digikey p# 455-1366-ND

Angel G7 (Angel Paintball Sports)

solenoid male plug
JST, Zh Series connector...2 circuit
JST P# ZHR-2
digikey p# 455-1366-ND

Angel Speed (Angel Paintball Sports)

solenoid male plug
JST, Zh Series connector...2 circuit
JST P# ZHR-2
digikey p# 455-1366-ND

Angel Fly (Angel Paintball Sports)

solenoid male plug
JST, Zh Series connector...2 circuit
JST P# ZHR-2
digikey p# 455-1366-ND

Angel A4 (Angel Paintball Sports)

solenoid male plug
JST, Zh Series connector...2 circuit
JST P# ZHR-2
digikey p# 455-1366-ND

Angel IR3 (Angel Paintball Sports)

solenoid male plug
JST, Zh Series connector...2 circuit
JST P# ZHR-2
digikey p# 455-1366-ND

Angel LCD (Angel Paintball Sports)

solenoid male plug
JST, Zh Series connector...2 circuit
JST P# ZHR-2
digikey p# 455-1366-ND

Angel LED (Angel Paintball Sports)

solenoid male plug
JST, Zh Series connector...2 circuit
JST P# ZHR-2
digikey p# 455-1366-ND

Angel V6 (Angel Paintball Sports)

solenoid male plug
JST, Zh Series connector...2 circuit
JST P# ZHR-2
digikey p# 455-1366-ND

Invert Mini (KEE)

solenoid male plug
JST, Zh Series connector...2 circuit
JST P# ZHR-2
digikey p# 455-1366-ND

E-Matrix (Procaps/Airtech)

DM4 (Dye)

solenoid male plug
JST, Zh Series connector...2 circuit
JST P# ZHR-2
digikey p# 455-1366-ND

DM5 (Dye)

solenoid male plug
JST, Zh Series connector...2 circuit
JST P# ZHR-2
digikey p# 455-1366-ND

DM6 (Dye)

solenoid male plug
JST, Zh Series connector...2 circuit
JST P# ZHR-2
digikey p# 455-1366-ND

DM7 (Dye)

solenoid male plug
JST, Zh Series connector...2 circuit
JST P# ZHR-2
digikey p# 455-1366-ND

DM8 (Dye)

solenoid male plug
JST, Zh Series connector...2 circuit
JST P# ZHR-2
digikey p# 455-1366-ND

PMR (Proto)

solenoid male plug
JST, Zh Series connector...2 circuit
JST P# ZHR-2
digikey p# 455-1366-ND

PM4 (Proto)

solenoid male plug
JST, Zh Series connector...2 circuit
JST P# ZHR-2
digikey p# 455-1366-ND

PM5 (Proto)

solenoid male plug
JST, Zh Series connector...2 circuit
JST P# ZHR-2
digikey p# 455-1366-ND

PM6 (Proto)

solenoid male plug
JST, Zh Series connector...2 circuit
JST P# ZHR-2
digikey p# 455-1366-ND

PM7 (Proto)

solenoid male plug
JST, Zh Series connector...2 circuit
JST P# ZHR-2
digikey p# 455-1366-ND

PM8 (Proto)

solenoid male plug
JST, Zh Series connector...2 circuit
JST P# ZHR-2
digikey p# 455-1366-ND

Fusion(Dangerous Power)

Threshold (Dangerous Power)


NOTES FROM Ydna:

MOLEX PICO-BLADE:
Used on AKALMP, Tadao Ion boards, Alias Intimidator, Invert Mini solenoid connector, Marq/Onyx/Closer/etc, Quests, and others.
Crimp housing 2 point - Molex part# 51021-0200
Crimp housing 3 point - Molex part# 51021-0300
Crimp housing 4 point - Molex part# 51021-0400
...etc
Crimp terminal (bulk) Molex part number 50058-8100 - very small, hard to reliably crimp by hand, but not totally impossible.

MOLEX MILLI-GRID:
All the same series 2-mm pitch dual row connector, used in different point numbers on different guns.
6 pin (2x3 point) NME boards, Pulse RF transmitter - Molex part# 51110-0650
8 pin (2x4 point) NME, Shocker Sport HSW S-Frame - Molex part# 51110-0850
12 pin (2x6 point) Bushmasters (including Chaos boards), Morlock boards, Intimidators, Freestyles - Molex part# 51110-1250
14 pin (2x7 point) Intimidators - Molex part# 51110-1450
As mentinoed earlier the crimp terminal bulk is Molex part# 50394-8100.
Cheetah boards use a 1x5 point version of these 2-mm pitch connectors for their reprogramming interface, if that matters (though you probably already know that if you've reprogrammed a Cheetah board before...lol)
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Old 04-08-2008, 09:06 PM #2
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Awesome idea, I'll look into the parts numbers for WDP products since thats what I have most of. Kudos to you
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Wow, nice thread, i see a sticky in the near future
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Great Idea!

It's as if you read my mind. After looking at Digikey I feel so lost. I primarily feel that way because I don't know the key terms to search for, and without pictures I just don't know what it is I need. I for one love this idea. Thank you very much.

On a side note, has anyone used or think this would be suitable for a batter to board connection, or for other component connections?
http://www.miniatronics.com/Merchant...ategory_Code=4
It seems a bit pricey but I haven't really seen prices for comparable connectors.
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I'm glad the idea is well received, so far! I will start by tracking down the numbers for things I own or have worked on a lot.

first out, those connectors are pretty cool! I am going to pick some up for custom projects. Maybe the expense is the problem for marker manufacturers. Maybe they don't work too well for wire-to-board connections for some less than obvious reason. I'll report after I try them.
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Don't want to Hijack the thread, but you guys seem to be the ones to ask; Where do you get your pneumatic fittings? The little brass guys that connect to polyethalene hose or tube.

And to make this post a little more legit, maybe someone could consider making a thread with info about those too, like common model #'s and guidelines for using them.
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Try checking Palmer's Pursuit Shop. They have a ton of air fittings.
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first out, those connectors are pretty cool! I am going to pick some up for custom projects. Maybe the expense is the problem for marker manufacturers. Maybe they don't work too well for wire-to-board connections for some less than obvious reason. I'll report after I try them.
No, they aren't so good for wire to board connections, but when you're putting mostly after market boards like the universal T board and Universal Chaos board in guns you don't really work with wire to board. It's more like wire to wire harness. Those that are using a DM board just use the eyes or solenoid already made for them which have the plug connector with it. If the wires need to be extended that isn't a problem.

While I'm on the topic of wire, is 22awg 7/30 most used in paintball guns? I estimated this number from bare leads from a solenoid I have laying around. Reason I ask is I'm very much considering picking a spool or three up for repair and extension.
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This should help a lot.

There are 3mm eyes in there. The little small white 2 pin connectors and their crimps in there (used on A LOT of markers)

Theres a 12 pin Molex connector used for a lot of boards and the crimps.


You have no idea how hard the little white Pico-blade Molex connector were to find.

They are used for nearly all quick disconnect eyes, trigger switches, and various other things on paintball markers.


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While I'm on the topic of wire, is 22awg 7/30 most used in paintball guns? I estimated this number from bare leads from a solenoid I have laying around. Reason I ask is I'm very much considering picking a spool or three up for repair and extension.
The answer is no. 22 awg wire is huge. You want to look for 24-28 awg wire.

26 AWG wire is your best bet. I would say a lot of markers use 28AWG wire. If you are going to get a couple spools get 26 AWG wire. It is the biggest wire you can use for most of the connectors used in paintball markers. Get quality Teflon insulated Mil-spec wire. A soldering iron can't melt Teflon insulated wire so you don't need to worry about messing the wire up from soldering.

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Good idea, now you just need to find the crimpers (which can be over $100 if I remember correctly).
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jdubau55, that is helpful, but I am uncertain what specific guns those go with. I'm afraid I'm only familiar with the guns I have owned for a long time, which is mostly down to Timmies, Egos, and Autocockers. I want to list them, but I am unsure how to do so- what did you use 'em for?

I know that 3mm eyes are pretty common to a lot of markers, and I imagine the emitters and detectors are interchangeable, but the plugs and crimp tips might be more specific.
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The small white connectors are used in a lot of stuff. Like everything. I know Timmies use them. Prolly Egos. They look like this.




I know Vikings and Excals use them. I know Ions use them. DM's use them.


The board plug looks like this....Prolly also used in a lot of markers.





Yes I know the crimp tool is a lot, but thats what you run into. If you just want to buy one set of them or something then you should just buy them from various sources where they come pre-crimped. The terminals can be modified a little to work for soldering. You just need like .010" solder to get a small enough connection.

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Intimidator (BLAST)

14 pt harness
Molex 51110-1450-P
Digi-key part number WM18056-ND for the 14 space connector contacts

12-pt harness
Molex 51110-1250-P
Digi-key part number WM18056-ND for the 12 space connector contacts
You will also need the crimp terminals for these. The part # you have listed is just a black housing. Unless you plan on pulling all the wires out of the stock plug and reusing them in the new housing, but that is just worthless.
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The crimp terminals for those are Molex part# 50394-8100 (terminal bulk, not on tape). You can solder wires onto them by hand if you're tricky, although it can be quite a chore.

Anyways as promised here are some numbers I've written down over the years. Most of them aren't too useful without some kind of precrimped wires, but hey not my department.
Myself I wriggled around with crimping these things by hand using a soldering iron for quite a while (years) but eventually broke down and bought the tools. I sell precrimped Molex Milli-grid wires but that's about it.
If you want the hand crimpers then check the datasheets for the wires, chances are the tools will be listed nearby (they want to sell you stuff after all

Ion mainboard, eye wire harness connector (1-mm pitch, eSH series, 4 point, top entry)
JST part# BM04B-SRSS-TB
Ion eye board, eye wire harness connector (1-mm pitch, eSH series, 4 point, side entry)
JST part# SM04B-SRSS-TB
Crimp housing with protrusions JST part# SHR-04V-S-B
Shocker SFT & Nerve wire harness connector (1-mm pitch, eSH series, 10 point, side-entry)
JST part# SM10B-SRSS-TB
Crimp housing with protrusions JST part# SHR-10V-S-B
No point in buying the terminal crimps for these....they're impossible to crimp without using the proper tool.

Shocker/Nerve I-LEB beam-break mods use the same conector as the Ion eye board.

Shocker/Nerve Predator board secondary crimp housing (used for programming and beam-break eyes) JST 1.5-mm pitch, 4 point, side entry
part# ZHR-4
Crimp terminals (tape...not free bulk) JST part# SZH-003T-P0.5

Shocker Sport solenoid connector (ePH series, 4 point, side entry)
JST part# S4B-PH-SM4-TB
Shocker Sport intellifeed connector header (eBH series, 3 point)
JST part# SM03(4.0)B-BHS-1-TB

Impulse solenoid connector, crimp housing (ePH series, 2 point, side entry)
JST part# PHR-2
Crimp terminal, JST part# SPH-002T-P0.5S

Eclipse E-Blade solenoid connnector (2 point) JST part# B-2B-ZR-SM2-TF?
Eclipse E-Blade eye connector (4 point) JST part# B-4B-ZR-SM2-TF?
(never bought either of those myself so I haven't verified)

MOLEX PICO-BLADE:
Used on AKALMP, Tadao Ion boards, Alias Intimidator, Invert Mini solenoid connector, Marq/Onyx/Closer/etc, Quests, and others.
Crimp housing 2 point - Molex part# 51021-0200
Crimp housing 3 point - Molex part# 51021-0300
Crimp housing 4 point - Molex part# 51021-0400
...etc
Crimp terminal (bulk) Molex part number 50058-8100 - very small, hard to reliably crimp by hand, but not totally impossible.

MOLEX MILLI-GRID:
All the same series 2-mm pitch dual row connector, used in different point numbers on different guns.
6 pin (2x3 point) NME boards, Pulse RF transmitter - Molex part# 51110-0650
8 pin (2x4 point) NME, Shocker Sport HSW S-Frame - Molex part# 51110-0850
12 pin (2x6 point) Bushmasters (including Chaos boards), Morlock boards, Intimidators, Freestyles - Molex part# 51110-1250
14 pin (2x7 point) Intimidators - Molex part# 51110-1450
As mentinoed earlier the crimp terminal bulk is Molex part# 50394-8100.
Cheetah boards use a 1x5 point version of these 2-mm pitch connectors for their reprogramming interface, if that matters (though you probably already know that if you've reprogrammed a Cheetah board before...lol)

That is all...
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Just so you know, the Molex 51021-0200, 0400, and 0600 are used in Racegun autococker frames as well.

Oh, and the 50058 crimps for them are for 28-32 awg wire. If you want to use 26 awg wire (someone above recommended it) then you would want to use the 50079-8100 terminals.

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Yeah, I didn't want to overcomplicate it with those details so I just picked one. When crimping them by hand you usually have to use a pair of pliers (or similar) to bend down any protruding tabs which are normally done with the crimp tool. But the size of the tabs is the only real difference between them so the smaller tabs [larger gage] don't really matter.
At least that's what I've found...heh
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I am about 90% sure that these are the part #'s for the FEP Quest connectors

Molex - 51021-0200
This is for one end of the solenoid plug, the one on the battery harness
Molex - 51074-0200
This is the other end of the solenoid, the end that is on the solenoid
JST - 455-1202-ND
This is for the 4-pin eye wire.

I am not sure on the new 3-wire eye harness, because I dont have those on my board...
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Even with a halfway decent crimp tool the crimps are still a bear.

Pliers don't work all that great as they do not provide a reliable hold. Your best bet is to do a hand crimp\solder combo. Use some small needle nose pliers and bend the tabs over then take some small OD solder and put a very small joint on there.

The biggest problem without having the actual crimp tool is that most other tools\ways mess up the crimp. It leaves you with an unreliable hold in the housing. Some crimps won't stay put so when you try to mate the male and female the terminals push out of the housing.
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Old 04-13-2008, 01:00 PM #20
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sounds like a great thread idea to me. i know i just had to replace an entire harness on my dm because i couldnt find the part number for the molex. ill see what info i can find on this stuff
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Old 04-15-2008, 03:15 PM #21
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Thanks for the Alias info i have been searching the damn Molex site for days trying to find those parts
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