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Old 04-03-2008, 03:42 PM #127
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Your "military people" were probably all no-load rear echelon types then. I don't see what's wrong with defending oneself against a personal attack which I certainly didn't initiate.
You know what dude.... you're not even worth arguing with. You're right... defend yourself and sling **** right back. keep it classy brotha.

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I wouldn't leave the conversation, but I would (and have) probably respond with an insult myself and at that point people tend to focus more on the insult than the actual post. If you make a perfectly well rationed argument and end it with calling the guy "dumb****" all he's going to see is that word rather than give you a response.

To be honest, I like it when you find someone willing to continue an actual conversation and pepper it with insults. It's alot more fun that way because I don't take it personally, but as I said, most people drop the "discussion" component and just go insult crazy, at which point it's totally pointless.


As for me, I'm cynical as hell and my honest opinion is that we're not going to continue to see the kind of prosperity we currently have indefinately. I think civillians should have access to millitary level equipment (outside of fully automatic weapons) and especially armor piercing rounds. I don't think it's *likely* that we'll ever need such a thing, but to be totally honest I wouldn't say it's too far outside the realm of possibility either.
I honestly don't see why we don't have access as it is. The "bad guys" have a free pass to use them on us, so why don't law abiding citizens have the ability to access the same fire arms? Armor piercing rounds are somewhat of a phantom however. A fully jacketed bullet with enough "omph" behind it is similar and can penetrate some body armor.


Ohhh and to keep it legit "twich loves the cock"
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Old 04-03-2008, 03:44 PM #128
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I think there was some confusion on your criticism of what I said. I was only addressing a comment about weapons classifications, and the poster I responded to even agreed with me. In fact, I didn't even bring up my background until someone called me out. I didn't just "spend some time in the Army", I was a weapons specialist and trainer. I have also done contract work, and trained on foreign weapons. I am obviously going to get pissed off when some guy calls me a "****ing idiot" and says i'm lying. I know there's not really a way to "prove" my credentials here, but come on... I don't deserve to be disrespected like that. If you read my other posts in other threads on ST, you would know that I am legit. But seeing as you apparently only come in to spout off bull**** about guns, I guess not.
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I think there was some confusion on your criticism of what I said. I was only addressing a comment about weapons classifications, and the poster I responded to even agreed with me. In fact, I didn't even bring up my background until someone called me out. I didn't just "spend some time in the Army", I was a weapons specialist and trainer. I have also done contract work, and trained on foreign weapons. I am obviously going to get pissed off when some guy calls me a "****ing idiot" and says i'm lying. I know there's not really a way to "prove" my credentials here, but come on... I don't deserve to be disrespected like that. If you read my other posts in other threads on ST, you would know that I am legit. But seeing as you apparently only come in to spout off bull**** about guns, I guess not.
there are tons of army special forces snipers on internet forums
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Old 04-03-2008, 03:48 PM #130
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You know what dude.... you're not even worth arguing with. You're right... defend yourself and sling **** right back. keep it classy brotha.



I honestly don't see why we don't have access as it is. The "bad guys" have a free pass to use them on us, so why don't law abiding citizens have the ability to access the same fire arms? Armor piercing rounds are somewhat of a phantom however. A fully jacketed bullet with enough "omph" behind it is similar and can penetrate some body armor.


Ohhh and to keep it legit "twich loves the cock"
Yeah but like I said, I'm pretty pessimistic and don't think "some body armor" is as comforting as a tungsten round that can penetrate "pretty much any body armor".

Where does 5.56 fall on that chart?
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Yeah but like I said, I'm pretty pessimistic and don't think "some body armor" is as comforting as a tungsten round that can penetrate "pretty much any body armor".

Where does 5.56 fall on that chart?
more than the Level3a, but less than level 3 i am assuming.

its a relatively small round...55gr-75gr but travels at blistering speeds of like 3000fps
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Old 04-03-2008, 03:51 PM #132
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I think it was classified as a level IIIA
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there are tons of army special forces snipers on internet forums
I never said I was SF. I am RGR tabbed and have been to sniper school. I'm on a break of service to finish college, and am going to reclass to intel this summer when I return to AD.

even though apparently what I say doesn't matter... but IIIA itself won't stop a 5.56. It may stop a ricochet or angle shot, but you need ballistic plates to stop them at that velocity. I'll be quiet now and let the experts talk.

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Old 04-03-2008, 03:52 PM #134
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Wow.... thanks for the unwarranted personal attack. I was talking about what qualifies a weapon as an assault rifle, as opposed to a battle rifle, sniper rifle etc.. If you don't agree with me, at least have the respect not to call me a "****ing idiot". I am a Army Infantry SGT and a 2 tour combat veteran. I don't appreciate being disrespected like that. Honestly, I don't know anything about gay *** **** hunting cartridges, because I use military rifles - you know, the type I use to kill men who are shooting back at me, not defenseless little animals like your ***** ***.
Nice way of being mature and acting like a man... Nobody likes to be attacked but it IS just the internet. Walk away and come back, or just scroll past his post.

On the other hand, a lot of military cartridges are used for hunting (7.62x51mm, 7.62x39mm, 7.62x54R, .30-06, etc.) as well.
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Old 04-03-2008, 03:53 PM #135
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I never said I was SF. I am RGR tabbed and have been to sniper school. I'm on a break of service to finish college, and am going to reclass to intel this summer when I return to AD.

i've been to sniper school also...ranger tabbed as well. 3 deployments in iraq and afghanistan. Im on break right now, going to reclass to small arms repair when i return to AD... 6 confirmed kills


see how easy it was for me to be badass?

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i've been to sniper school also...ranger tabbed as well. 3 deployments in iraq and afghanistan. Im on break right now, going to reclass to small arms repair when i return to AD... 6 confirmed kills


see how easy it was for me to be badass?
I understand there's no way to prove I do what I do... And no hard feelings, because there are alot of "armchair commandos on the internet" you're right. I am legit, bro.. you'll just have to take my word for it. I also just posted some pics of me in Iraq in the pics thread.
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Its about that if the government decides to take our guns.... they better become better shots. I would take the masses with guns over most of our LE's anyday!
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Its about that if the government decides to take our guns.... they better become better shots. I would take the masses with guns over most of our LE's anyday!
rofl, we dont even need guns.

remember the LA Riots?
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rofl, we dont even need guns.

remember the LA Riots?
I just don't see how they think that No guns allowed is a solution to the issue. because bad guys are just hoping we ban them from good people.... more victims.
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