PBoldtimer: First thanks for bringing about conversation vs. "NO U!" Although I was hoping for more questions about the actual guide itself, this debate is welcome as well.
"The problem with this thread is that it reads like a 'how to' manual."
That's the idea
"YOU used the word "scumbag" because you know that these tactics are underhanded and shady."
Underhanded is a strong word. Shady yes, calouse yes, proberly a couple other negative words yes. I wouldn't call it underhanded, cheating, or even cheap. It's not like I'm saying "pull a deadmans walk because that's awesome!"
"You didn't outplay anybody. You manipulated the rules to suit your own purposes."
Ok, so aside from stealing an ID card or fabricating one, both of which are a-ok by many rulebooks, what rules are really being manipulated? What if I told you this could even be pulled off without saying "I'm not a spy." I don't even need to say "I'm on your team" a majority of the time when this is pulled off right.
This really isn't a guide on how to manipulate the rules. Up until I got attacked for "cheating" I don't think I even mentioned a grey area other than the whole ID card shick everyone got caught on. It's a guide on how to manipulate people at a scenario game. That's what spying is about, that's what roleplaying is about, and that's what makes scenario awesome.
You can adjust this guide to help or hurt a target. You can adjust this to help in the role of spy or the role of walker texas ranger. How to move groups of people and have them thinking how you want, how to manipulate information getting to targets, how to garner trust and keep it through misdirection and rewards. These are all components any good role player has to be well versed in.
I wrote it from the point of view of using the skill set to be a scum bag spy because that's what I used to roleplay until people really figured out who I was and what I was doing. I also got bored as hell. Using the same skills I learned as a spy though I can roleplay a nuetral "good guy" charecter and have done so a couple times without a hitch. I got bored of being a scumbag because in a lot of aspects it's like being a command person and that's no fun for me.
So is it really not outplaying someone just because I got them to walk around field X for half an hour instead of shooting them and taking them out of play for the same amount of time? Is it really not outplaying someone when you stop a good amount of missions going out by replacing real mission cards with fake ones as you get them? I think so, and your free to feel otherwise, but end of the day if someone pulls this off good they'll make more of an impact than most teams. I call that outplaying a group myself.
"Now how many people are going to read this thread and think this is the coolest thing ever. Then they'll pass out this information so as to become widespread. Then instead of just several people employing these tactics, we have scores or hundreds. What will THAT scenario game be like?"
While that would properly never happen due to the natural born charecteristics you really need to pull this off... That would be awesome. It would be awesome if suddenly everyone wasn't there for red v. blue but was there for the game. That's why I posted this guide in the first place
As I've said, hopefully it won't reach diabolical proportions but honestly I see the chance of that happening as quite slim. This is harder to pull off than it used to be, takes a ridiculous amount of effort and time, and is completely thankless. I don't see a lot of the lone paintball players I've met/know jumping at a chance for that awesome job.
"As far as others thinking I'm over dramatizing this issue becasue not many people know about these sort of tactics and therefore won't become upset by them... just take a look at how many hits this thread has. Each hit a another potential 'scumbag.'"
I think a lot more people came here to shout "NO U" than to read the guide but you have a better attitude about it.