[thekoreankid69]

Basically there are 2 pump guns in my budget that seem good. The Phantom Bottom Line and Phantom VSC both have 45 grips. Which one seems better for a player just starting pump

[TSpb]

Originally Posted by thekoreankid69

Basically there are 2 pump guns in my budget that seem good. The Phantom Bottom Line and Phantom VSC both have 45 grips. Which one seems better for a player just starting pump

Well it depends on what kind of setup you want. The Phantom Bottom line uses a hopper and a co2 tank, it would be good if you want a setup close to a semi or don't want to worry about having to reload every 10-20 shots. The Phantom VSC is pretty much the ultimate challenge. It is powered by small 12g co2 cartridges that get around 30-50 shots each (can also be powered by a co2/hpa tank, just take off the 12g quick changer), and uses a feed tube that holds 10-20 shots instead of a hopper. Also with the VSC, you have to do what is called "rock and cock". This means after every shot you have to point the gun downward to get the ball to feed into the gun. Overall I would say get the bottomline if you want a setup close to a semi, and get the VSC if you want a big challenge and like the idea of not having a hopper/co2 tank.

[TSpb]

Originally Posted by thekoreankid69

Basically there are 2 pump guns in my budget that seem good. The Phantom Bottom Line and Phantom VSC both have 45 grips. Which one seems better for a player just starting pump

Oops, I didn't see the "which one seems better for a player just starting pump". Well if your just starting I would try to get a Kingman hammer, Tippmann SL-68 II,or a Pmi Trracer/Aci maverick (same guns), all these guns are like the Phantom Bottomline, they use a hopper and co2 tank.

[Pyrate Jim]

Stock Class is the "black diamond" of paintball.
For a beginner, or just new to pumps, something with a hopper and constant air is a good way to get used to playing with a pump without worrying about counting your shots as well.

[thekoreankid69]

probably going to get the bottomline because SL-68's are hard to find in good condition and the tilting stock class sort of could be a pain as a first pump

[Linuss]

http://www.pbnation.com/showthread.php?t=2426812

[thekoreankid69]

anyone know where to get and SL-68 or SL-68 II

[z1p101]

Originally Posted by thekoreankid69

anyone know where to get and SL-68 or SL-68 II

E bay, B/S/T here or I believe you will have better luck at MCB. If you do not find one, put a WTB in both and I am sure you will get some sellers. I'm sure there are a couple of guys or gals at MCB who have about 10 of them laying around.

[thekoreankid69]

I'm leaning more toward phantoms still

[z1p101]

Originally Posted by thekoreankid69

I'm leaning more toward phantoms still

It depends. If you really know you want a pump then defiantly go for the Phantom. If you are not sure and you just want to try it out without making that large of an investment then the Trracer of Maverick is a really good option. They are great performers for the price.

[twowords]

cocker pump ftw!

[bnctaj]

Originally Posted by thekoreankid69

I'm leaning more toward phantoms still

Buying a used Phantom may be the way you desire to go - the market on Phantoms is pretty stable so if one were to get a good deal then one could turn a profit if one decided that one does not like pump play.

[Pumpa]

I am buying one of these i'll give opinions on when i get it.

http://corporate.marketworks.com/sto...pid=6&dfi d=1

[nightcrewcaptain]

Originally Posted by Pumpa

I am buying one of these i'll give opinions on when i get it.

http://corporate.marketworks.com/sto...pid=6&dfi d=1

Hows that working out for you?