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Old 05-24-2001, 09:21 PM #1
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Cool HI aLL

sweet i love this site over pbc it is so mutch better . hey administrators i hope we wont have to pay soon!!!!!
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Old 05-24-2001, 10:24 PM #2
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there are no plans of ever making this a pay site so enjoy and welcome to PBN

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Old 05-25-2001, 09:53 PM #3
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Old 06-15-2001, 10:38 AM #4
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Yeah no pay unlike those capitalistic pigs at the dojo. Hey i am happy to be here Peade out and Urfendagen for all
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Old 06-15-2001, 11:47 AM #5
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wow did you dig this thread up from like page 4 ?
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Old 06-18-2001, 11:42 PM #6
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Nothing wrong with a bit of capitalism, but they're apparently smoking crack over at the "Dojo".

$4/month is wildly optimistic. He ended up chasing everyone away... it's DEAD over there now.

RIP PBC...
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Old 06-19-2001, 07:21 PM #7
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We shall all give a moment of silence for the deceased PBD..They had something good going till they went all capitalistic, if they only gotten commercial banners they woudl have...well they woudl still be here
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Yeah they had different ways they could have gotten out... but they didnt... I dont care either... Ever since this site has come out I have been posting.... and to tell you the truth I like it more... know whats kinda funny? $48 a year.. that could be like a case of paint I'd rather be shooting then paying for a site I didnt like.... oh well
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Old 06-19-2001, 07:31 PM #9
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i think we should burn the dojo then dance upon its ashes!
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Old 06-19-2001, 07:32 PM #10
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i think we should burn the dojo then dance upon its ashes!
YEAH BURN Biotch BURN
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Old 06-19-2001, 07:43 PM #11
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i think we should hold an uprising against the dojo!i guarantee that the people at the dojo would rather have a better thing for a price that nobody can beat,nothing! the uprising will come!
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now come on guys.. jim did what he felt necessary for his site. im not agreeing with what he did but we have to respect his decisions. dojo/city is gone let it go.. Viva PBN

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People obviously don't know what you're talking about.

I've been there since the beginning almost. And from then, there has been almost as many people going there as a pilgrimage to Mecca.

Jim DID try the banners thing, KNKY. And after that initial try failed, he merged with the Dojo in order to open up to even MORE banner advertisement, to possibly PREVENT the need for charging.

However, the internet advertising business has dropped DRASTICALLY since the 20th century. And from that, even after joining with Dojo, there was still not enough advertisers looking to pay the $$. The advertising idea had dried up.

The $4 a month deal was is right now basically his last possibly ability to keep the place up and running. Because with no advertisers, there is no $$$ coming in, and no way to pay for the servers which are working overtime because so many people keep joining up.

When I joined up, there was barely even 300 people at the site. And when this $4/M had to go into effect, there were thousands of members. So if ANYBODY is actually to blame, it is ourselves for such a massave amount of people joining up. It's not all Jims fault. The blame also falls on us, the members.

So remember, when you point your finger at somebody, you have three others pointing back at you!
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One small problem with his approach to trying to survive. He priced the memberships too high. I'll bet there are 5 or 6 times more people out there willing to pay a buck a month than there are people who will pay $4/month. The sad thing is that he has a core of people who paid him the $4 and since everyone left, they're left holding the bag. Virtually no one left to talk to.

Even a PBS model may have helped. Have fundraising drives, give paying members no ad access and the free users a limited number of posts / day or something.

Yeah, I feel bad for him. But he priced himself out of the market.
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i totaly agree..

but this has gone on too long and is way off topic to be kept open in the m98 forum.. if you want to continue the discussion feel free to start again in the small talk forum.

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