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Old 12-10-2007, 05:53 PM #1
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Thumbs down the NPPL is a bunch of liars

sorry about the title, i was just mad when i read the email from the NPPL. i don't feel as though it accurately paints a picture of what's going on in the league.

i found this in my email inbox from the NPPL. it's an excerpt from their year end email:

"Quoted by players, media and sponsors alike as being the greatest NPPL event of the year, if not ever, the San Diego NPPL surpassed many expectations

HA! "if not ever"... no, no one would say that. no one.

the weather sucked... maybe because the last event was scheduled in december.

between the last game we played in KC and the first game in SD there were 2 HUGE screw ups by the nppl. first they allowed a tie, i think we can all agree that was retarded. their second mistake was to change the center court field right before the tournament. not a big deal? it is when other teams get to practice the field and you don't. we missed sunday by 2 eliminations... over 8 games. two of the games we lost were on center court to teams who played the field just before the tournament.

the only decent part of SD was the vendors area which was the best one i've seen in a while... too bad that has nothing to do with actually playing.

"The NPPL has received many compliments on the quality refereeing at this event and we would like to thank all of those officials who did such an amazing job..."

more lies. the reffing was the same inconsistent refereeing that it always is. some refs are really good, but they're the exception. there was the usual blatant wiping on all sides plus refs making up rules. i.e. at the end of our last game two image players stood up and starting shooting about 5-10 seconds after the game went to time. more over, they shot erik quite a bit in the process and missed me as i dove for cover... result? at first they called a 2 for 1 on us. then after a long argument they ended up giving us both a 1 for 1. shooting at people after a game because you're pissed is kind of insane. a 1 for 1 is a light sentence.

this has been the worst year for the NPPL since the split, and the people in charge lie. not just in the email, which is really more propaganda, but to people. dave zinkham [i originally put dan perez, sorry dan. thanks hass for the correction] lied to us about the teams who complained; there was only one (infamous), but they said there were 6 even though he wouldn't name them. then they said that both rich telford (xsv) and ron kilborn (bushwackers), who are on the field building comity, had decided to change the field even though both of them denied this decision to us personally [hass talks more about this below]. this is weird because dave is usually pretty down for fixing stuff. hass and him talk all the time and fix minor little glitches in the format, so we got kind of pissed when they lied to us. it was just insulting.

all we're asking for is a level playing field. currently the NPPL is putting their interests, exciting games, in front of the participants desire for fairness.

on a side note: the psp is just strange to me. i don't get them.

corrections and further thoughts:

http://www.pbnation.com/showthread.p...0#post42400150
http://www.pbnation.com/showthread.p...1#post42419001
http://www.pbnation.com/showthread.p...7#post42428737

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Old 12-10-2007, 06:03 PM #2
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Old 12-10-2007, 09:49 PM #3
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Old 12-10-2007, 09:53 PM #4
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Ya know bro i don't play that league.Im no where near good enough but i don't disagree with ya about the reffing at all.
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Old 12-11-2007, 08:20 AM #5
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Personally, I think the way the nppl handles their business is sad.
If your business decisions require you to lie on a regular basis, then YOU HAVE A PROBLEM!
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Old 12-11-2007, 09:15 AM #6
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Sup Fellas,
The NPPL is in a sad state. Logan's seen the discussion in the NPPL section about Shawn Walker and how Mr. Walker is auguring the league into the ground. So, the Field Design Commitee still even exists? Because during the Webcast, Shawn said that he allowed the Field Design Committee to "Dissolvpate"... moron confused dissipate and dissolve... he also went on to say that the NPPL will have even less bunkers next season. My personal favorite is how he repackages what Chuck & Bart did, and takes claim to it as if it was his idea. He was on the webcast talking about how HE had just created a player panel to discuss issues with the league... what, wasn't that the point of the Rules Committee before You, Shawn Walker, began overruling and rendering the commitee powerless.

While we're on the topic, Shawn was spewing it on the webcast... people actually started calling him a liar, so he starting trying to prove how, "I have never lied, I don't lie. I have always told the truth, thats how I am". I moment earlier, he said that he and Magued are best friends and Magued would be working with the NPPL in 2008 to fix the reffing issues and that Joy was leaving the NPPL because Angel has money problems. He said that Rage also left Angel because Angel's money problems affected how much financial support they gave the team.

That email was the most sickening example of "spin" that I've seen in a while.
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Old 12-11-2007, 10:00 AM #7
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im interested to hear ur opinion on the psp i guess im asking why u dont get them?
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Old 12-11-2007, 10:46 AM #8
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im interested to hear ur opinion on the psp i guess im asking why u dont get them?
yea im also a lil curious... i mean atleast you dont hear any big probs like you do with the nppl
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Old 12-11-2007, 10:56 AM #9
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nppl needs a "no spin" zone or the o'reily factor
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Old 12-11-2007, 11:03 AM #10
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nppl needs a "no spin" zone or the o'reily factor
They want to fix it, not **** it up even more.
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Old 12-11-2007, 11:07 AM #11
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Old 12-11-2007, 07:41 PM #12
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haha i like it
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Old 12-11-2007, 11:57 PM #13
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Old 12-12-2007, 12:31 PM #14
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Old 12-12-2007, 12:34 PM #15
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less bunkers?

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Old 12-12-2007, 01:14 PM #16
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less bunkers?

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as if trying to watch 7 man games wasnt dull enough. Now they are trying to restrict movement even more. NPPL
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Old 12-12-2007, 04:05 PM #17
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For the record, it was Dave Zinkham (not Dan Perez) who claimed that "three of the five members of the field design committee voted in favor of changing the field." Of the three he mentioned, at least two later said that they had in fact warned AGAINST changing the field.

The ultimate irony is that they ending up changing what MIGHT have been a stalemate field into what definitely WAS a stalemate field.

Other than that, what Logan said.
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Old 12-12-2007, 09:05 PM #18
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I can't stand the NPPL. Sean Walker has made some TERRIBLE decisions this year, and hasn't fixed any of the major problems that people always complain about.
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Old 12-12-2007, 09:09 PM #19
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don't get psp?¿?! lol. well good luck with everything.
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Old 12-13-2007, 10:52 PM #20
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i don't get the people who run the psp, not the format.

i get xball. you run around with a machine gun, people direct you towards the bad guys, dying isn't really punished... sounds like a sweet video game.

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i get xball. you run around with a machine gun, people direct you towards the bad guys, dying isn't really punished... sounds like a sweet video game.

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probably the best summary ever.
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