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Old 09-12-2007, 12:48 PM #1
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Setting up your CCM marker...

Question for ya...
What is the best way to set up a CCM SS-25 gun?
I bought one off a guy and he had it set to a low pressure tank, since i am now using high pressure what is the best way to get the air output right?
Is there gauges to use or is everything a total guess until somehow you get it right and never touch the marker again...
Give me a little insight.
Thanks..
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Old 09-12-2007, 01:01 PM #2
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The proper method for setting a CCM Marker., Setting the reg and the FPS.

For those that have a new marker - take it out of the box and start at #3. For those that have already been messing with thier marker - start at #1

1) Back out your reg until the marker is shooting slowly - perhaps 100 FPS.
2) Back out your IVG until there it is only screwed in two threads.
3) Get perhaps 50 paintballs that are consistant. Use calipers if you need to.
4) Match this paint to your barrel to get a good match.
5) Start turning up the reg and chronoing the marker.
6) Your marker will either get to 300 FPS in this manner (skip to Step 8) or the FPS will plateau and after a few more turns starts to decrease again. This is because you have now given the valve too much pressure and it is closing faster than it should. Remember the point where it plateaued and set the reg at this point.
7) Use the IVG to set the FPS the rest of the way if your reg had not reached 300 fps.

This is the most efficient setting for your marker.

8) (Optional) If your reg reached 300 fps before it plateued you could go to a weaker main spring and re do this proceedure in order to have the most efficient marker. A heavier valve spring would accomplish the same thing. However a weaker main spring would lighten your pump stroke.

I have found that 300 PSI is a great place to start with CCM markers. Perhaps even start at 275 psi and make smaller adjustments to the reg to get it to plateau at the highest FPS you can.

I have used this method on all of my CCM's to great effect. I never use my reg after it is sweetspotted and only use my IVG to set me FPS when needed (which is rare). The CCM reg is great out of the box and when set properly with good paint is VERY consistant.

Good luck.

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TF has a nice write up.

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Old 09-12-2007, 01:13 PM #3
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The IVG is the hole in the back of the gun that you have to take out the cocking rod to get right?
(It uses a 7/16 allen wrench)
If not, is it located in the same place but you need a three prong tool to adjust?
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Old 09-12-2007, 01:23 PM #4
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The IVG is the hole in the back of the gun that you have to take out the cocking rod to get right?
(It uses a 7/16 allen wrench)
yes
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Old 09-12-2007, 01:23 PM #5
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The IVG is the hole in the back of the gun that you have to take out the cocking rod to get right?
(It uses a 7/16 allen wrench)
If not, is it located in the same place but you need a three prong tool to adjust?
Yes it is. Not sure what size it is tho. I just use an allen that fits

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Old 09-12-2007, 02:04 PM #6
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One last question...
I had a shop try to set it up and they replaced a spring. (The large one right next to the cocking rod)
It seems incredibly tense and i notice fewer shoots from my tank is now avaliable.
Would a weaker spring give my better shots per tank?
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Old 09-12-2007, 03:47 PM #7
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One last question...
I had a shop try to set it up and they replaced a spring.
It seems incredibly tense and i notice fewer shoots from my tank is now avalible.
Would a weaker spring give my better shots per tank?
That depends on which spring they changed and which spring they left alone.

You have a valve spring (shorter) or a main spring (longer). Depending on which one they changed & which combination of springs you currently have will affect how many shots you could get from your air source.

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Old 09-12-2007, 06:13 PM #8
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Use stock CCM Springs on your SS25. If they changed it and it is stiff - it is most likely wrong.

You could also call Mel at CCM and she will take care of you for a tune up.

Thanks for the props Jay.

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Old 09-12-2007, 06:13 PM #9
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If you have any other questions please don't hesitate to contact us direct.
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Old 09-12-2007, 06:15 PM #10
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Great minds think alike TF, check our post times.....
Thanks for your help!
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Old 09-13-2007, 09:34 AM #11
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Thanks for the props Jay.

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No problem

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Old 09-13-2007, 02:32 PM #12
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Great minds think alike TF, check our post times.....
Thanks for your help!
It is actually because I have performed a Vulcan mind meld on you from afar.

We now think as one.

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Old 09-14-2007, 04:44 PM #13
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It is actually because I have performed a Vulcan mind meld on you from afar.

We now think as one.

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Reallllly? Ok, what am I thinking.... right now!
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Old 09-14-2007, 09:45 PM #14
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Well - if you have felt the need to linger in the mirror a lot lately...

Don't blame me!

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Old 09-14-2007, 10:36 PM #15
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After each adjustment on the marker, you need to take a few shots before taking a reading to let the reg settle.

Be sure to hold the pump forward when shooting over the chrono.
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Old 09-15-2007, 01:28 AM #16
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You want your reg at agout 350 input pressure and you want to use stock ccm springs. Thats what I do to all my guns and all my customers CCM's and it has yet to fail me.
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Old 09-15-2007, 03:21 AM #17
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Sweet, thanks you guys!
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Old 09-15-2007, 08:33 AM #18
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You want your reg at agout 350 input pressure and you want to use stock ccm springs. Thats what I do to all my guns and all my customers CCM's and it has yet to fail me.
I can agree with this setting. I set mine a bit lower - about 300 fps - but I think PumpforLife probably has a slightly more efficient setting at 350.

I can get 7 tubes off a 45/4500 - so I really don't care about MORE shots.

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