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Old 06-21-2007, 02:58 PM #22
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Oh great now I've got something else that I want to waste money on. Damnit OB!



Gee, in another thread you command people to "Go into a church and sit down and pray." That's certainly not respectful of other people's beliefs. You even charged Topazbullet with having no religion when it is very clear that he is a spiritual individual and does believe in Taoism. So, Cruiseman... you learn to show respect.
Ok listen obviously you misread my post I was talking to those without a religion to go and pray and you right I assumed wrong on Topaz and I apologized for that so you just didn’t read my post correctly or didn’t interpret it correctly
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Old 06-21-2007, 03:00 PM #23
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I'm sorry your religion changes the rules every couple months. But it's just so easy to give my opinion in an online forum, you know...like I have free speech or some crazy idea like that.


Thank you, and touche.
Your right you do have free speach but its how you use that free speach is what counts to ridicule others or to help others. And you misread my post aswell.
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Ok listen obviously you misread my post I was talking to those without a religion to go and pray and you right I assumed wrong on Topaz and I apologized for that so you just didn’t read my post correctly or didn’t interpret it correctly
Oh ok so commanding someone to go pray since they don't have a religion is respectful? No it's not. Sharing what you believe is fine, but telling someone, "hey you don't have a religion you need to go and sit down at a church and pray", is not respectful at all. You my friend need to learn respect, not GoldEagle.
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These are more important than the original 10 commandments.
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It's nice to see that with all of the bad things currently going on in the world, the Catholic Church is focused on the truly important means by which Satan might influence our everyday lives. Long live the Pope!
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Old 06-21-2007, 09:44 PM #27
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Oh ok so commanding someone to go pray since they don't have a religion is respectful? No it's not. Sharing what you believe is fine, but telling someone, "hey you don't have a religion you need to go and sit down at a church and pray", is not respectful at all. You my friend need to learn respect, not GoldEagle.
I dont go openly mocking somebody elses religon thats what he did. Lets just leave thnis thread alone and debate in the other one.
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I dont go openly mocking somebody elses religon thats what he did. Lets just leave thnis thread alone and debate in the other one.
Whats wrong with openly mocking someone's religon? Christians openly mock homosexuals, Muslums openly mock freedom and personal choice, That stack of cookies on the counter are openly mocking me right now...Thats it they die, where is my milk glass...
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Ok listen obviously you misread my post I was talking to those without a religion to go and pray and you right I assumed wrong on Topaz and I apologized for that so you just didn’t read my post correctly or didn’t interpret it correctly
why would you tell people to do something that has been proven to be completely ineffectual in the first place?
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interesting read, this was on yesterday's newspaper in Puerto Rico, where the world's bad drivers get trained.
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interesting read, this was on yesterday's newspaper in Puerto Rico, where the world's bad drivers get trained.
Don't you mean Florida? Here, Yellow doesn't mean "proceed with caution", it means "hurry the **** up so maybe you can get through this light after it turns red".
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Don't you mean Florida? Here, Yellow doesn't mean "proceed with caution", it means "hurry the **** up so maybe you can get through this light after it turns red".
Hey stfu that's what it means to me!!!
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Hey stfu that's what it means to me!!!
Hey, it means that to me too Wasn't saying it's a bad thing, just saying we suck at following the law
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It's nice to see that with all of the bad things currently going on in the world, the Catholic Church is focused on the truly important means by which Satan might influence our everyday lives. Long live the Pope!
Well, I would say that since the stats show that an estimated 1.2 million people are killed in road crashes each year and as many as 50 million are injured, that safe driving should be considered a pretty important issue, among many others, of course.

And the pope didn't have anything to do with this. It came from the Vatican's office where Cardinal Renato Martino heads it. There was no indication Pope Benedict XVI had approved of, or even read, the document. It was signed by Martino and his secretary — as is customary for lower-level documents that are routinely put out by the offices of the Vatican's vast bureaucracy.

It's just me but I think it was a good thing seeing as I find myself in the confessional many a times for road rage. I think it is a common problem that most drivers deal with.

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These are more important than the original 10 commandments.
As the article says, the whole "Ten Commandments" thing is not to imply that it is as important as the real commandments. It was "creative pedagogy" to get people's attention and it should never be considered binding in the way the official Ten Commandments are.

But for some, and apparently the majority on here, the document has just been an occassion to poke fun at the Vatican.

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But for some, and apparently the majority on here, the document has just been an occassion to poke fun at the Vatican.
Oh well Nicole, poking fun at the Vatican wouldn't happen nearly so often if those who run the church didn't provide us with such a volume of material.
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Oh well Nicole, poking fun at the Vatican wouldn't happen nearly so often if those who run the church didn't provide us with such a volume of material.
So do you think there is something wrong with providing the faithful with helpful reading material to consider or are you saying that just by its very nature, having so much printed literature out there lends itself to the opportunity for criticism?
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Old 06-22-2007, 08:48 PM #38
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what i want to know is how in all of holy h*** this guy is pope wasnt he hitler youth ?? who is he to command people and say they are going to hell for honking their horn out of anger

damn im afriad to take a **** and p*** at the same time because that might just be a sin to!
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As the article says, the whole "Ten Commandments" thing is not to imply that it is as important as the real commandments. It was "creative pedagogy" to get people's attention and it should never be considered binding in the way the official Ten Commandments are.

But for some, and apparently the majority on here, the document has just been an occassion to poke fun at the Vatican.
I was saying, that in my eyes, they are more important than the majority of the orginal 10 commandments.
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what i want to know is how in all of holy h*** this guy is pope wasnt he hitler youth ?? who is he to command people and say they are going to hell for honking their horn out of anger

damn im afriad to take a **** and p*** at the same time because that might just be a sin to!
First off, as far as the Hitler youth go, all you need to do is google it to see that the Pope was forced into it, and I quote: "Following his fourteenth birthday in 1941, Ratzinger was enrolled in the Hitler Youth — membership being legally required after December 1939 — but was an unenthusiastic member and refused to attend meetings. His father was a bitter enemy of Nazism, believing it conflicted with the Catholic faith. In 1941, one of Ratzinger's cousins, a 14-year-old boy with Down syndrome, was killed by the Nazi regime in its campaign of eugenics."

Secondly, the pope, as I said before, had absolutely nothing to do with this document.

Lastly, rage is considered one of the seven deadly sins and anger is explicitly mentioned in the bible in such passages as:

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A fool shows his annoyance at once, but a prudent man overlooks an insult (Proverbs 12:16).

Reckless words pierce like a sword, but the tongue of the wise brings healing (Proverbs 12:18).

A wise man fears the Lord and shuns evil, but a fool is hotheaded and reckless (Proverbs 14:16

A quick-tempered man does foolish things, and a crafty man is hated (Proverbs 14:17).

A patient man has great understanding, but a quick-tempered man displays folly (Proverbs 14:29).

A gentle answer turns away wrath, but a harsh word stirs up anger (Proverbs 15:1).

A hot-tempered man stirs up dissension, but a patient man calms a quarrel (Proverbs 15:18).

Better a patient man than a warrior, a man who controls his temper than one who takes a city (Proverbs 16:32).

A man of knowledge uses words with restraint, and a man of understanding is even-tempered (Proverbs 17:27).

It is to a man's honor to avoid strife, but every fool is quick to quarrel (Proverbs 20:3).

Do not say, "I'll pay you back for this wrong!" Wait for the LORD, and he will deliver you (Proverbs 20:22).

Like a city whose walls are broken down is a man who lacks self-control (Proverbs 25:28).

Mockers stir up a city, but wise men turn away anger (Proverbs 29:8).

A fool gives full vent to his anger, but a wise man keeps himself under control (Proverbs 29:11).

An angry man stirs up dissension, and a hot-tempered one commits many sins (Proverbs 29:22).

You have heard that it was said to the people long ago, "Do not murder, and anyone who murders will be subject to judgment." But I tell you that anyone who is angry with his brother will be subject to judgment ... first go and be reconciled to your brother; then come and offer your gift (Matthew 5:21-24).

Do not be overcome by evil, but overcome evil with good (Romans 12:21).

Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It is not rude, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs (1 Corinthians 13:4-5).

The acts of the sinful nature are obvious: sexual immorality, impurity and debauchery; idolatry and witchcraft; hatred, discord, jealousy, fits of rage, selfish ambition, dissensions, factions (Galatians 5:19-20).

"In your anger do not sin": Do not let the sun go down while you are still angry, and do not give the devil a foothold (Ephesians 4:26-7).

Do not let any unwholesome talk come out of your mouths, but only what is helpful for building others up according to their needs, that it may benefit those who listen. And do not grieve the Holy Spirit of God, with whom you were sealed for the day of redemption. Get rid of all bitterness, rage and anger, brawling and slander, along with every form of malice. Be kind and compassionate to one another, forgiving each other, just as in Christ God forgave you (Ephesians 4:29-32).

Let your gentleness be evident to all (Philippians 4:5).

But now you must rid yourselves of all such things as these: anger, rage, malice, slander, and filthy language from your lips (Colossians 3:8).

And the Lord's servant must not quarrel; instead, he must be kind to everyone, able to teach, not resentful (2 Timothy 2:24).

My dear brothers, take note of this: Everyone should be quick to listen, slow to speak and slow to become angry, for man's anger does not bring about the righteous life that God desires (James 1:19-20).

Do not repay evil with evil or insult with insult, but with blessing, because to this you were called so that you may inherit a blessing (1 Peter 3:9).
So its not like the Vatican is telling us anything new that the bible hasn't already said, so don't get so bent out of shape!!!

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I was saying, that in my eyes, they are more important than the majority of the orginal 10 commandments.
Oh, I thought you were being sarcastic. Sorry.
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I want to see the clergy's version of this list.........

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