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Old 05-13-2007, 01:35 PM #1
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Nurv Makes Paintball History

Well guys, we did our best at the Tampa NPPL tournament, but apparently winning is not enough to get you into the next rounds. Here is the situation, Nurv vs. Naughty by Nature in a best 2 out of 3 series, winner advances. First game, Naughty by Nature wins. Next game, Nurv wins, tied at 1 and 1. Next game, Nurv wins, signs score card, series over. However, Naughty by Nature argues the fact that one of their players got pulled and wasn't actually hit. Well, that's too bad, bad calls happen all the time in the NPPL, as a matter of fact in that exact same game I got pulled when I wasn't hit and anyone that knows me knows I DO NOT argue calls or make excuses. So, they get the ultimate ref over, and he finally decides that because someone from the sidelines told a ref to pull a player that was pulled and wasn't hit that it qualifies as an "extreme circumstance" and the game should be replayed. We argued that's it's not our fault the ref made a bad call and irregardless we still would've won. We are all like, WTF!?!? This has never happened, even Ollie Lang himself couldn't get a game to be replayed if his team lost. The ultimate then tells us to gear up because we're playing again and we have 4 minutes or else we are disqualified. We were all about figuring out what team we're playing next and they tell us this so we have to rush and get paint and do all that. Then we play and we end up losing (most everyone was extremely mind F'ed) after the whole ordeal). So, then Naughty by Nature advances.

This sets a terrible precedent for the NPPL because they are basically saying that any call that wasn't right gives you the right to replay an entire game. Even had that player not gotten pulled we still won w/ 2 bodies live and had all the spots, he probably would've gotten mowed anyways so the whole thing is just ridiculous. I nor the Naughty Dogs have ever heard of a game replayed and the dogs have been around practically since the inception of paintball.

The main problem here is this.

#1. A ref supposedly pulled a player that was not hit, which is speculative because he may have been hit. Refs usually don't pull people for no reason whatsoever.

#2. Whether or not it was a bad call it was unlikely to change the outcome of that game. We still won with 2 bodies live, had all the spots on the field, etc.

#3. One thing every paintball player knows is that a call made on the field always stands no matter how much arguing is done unless it was clearly obvious that a ref was in direct violation of a rule, which was NOT the case here.

#4. The NPPL rule states that an ultimate ref may overturn a call under extreme circumstances. While this is a grey area is still does not justify what happened.

#5. The idea to replay the game was neither that of any of the NPPL refs or the ultimate refs idea, but it WAS that of Giovanni (NXN's coach).

#6. The ultimate then took it upon himself to force this issue upon us and say that we must replay the game or forfeit. THIS IS WHERE HE GETS WAY OUT OF BOUNDS IN REGARDS TO THE NPPL RULES. The NPPL rules do not state anything about replaying a game. If he deemed this situation an "extreme circumstance" then the call may have been overturned which would have given NXN another body live on the scoresheet and Nurv would still have subsequently advanced. What he did, however, I consider to be in gross negligence of the NPPL rules and to be a severe misuse of power. He did what was not in his power to do, this is NOT A MISINTERPRETATION OF A RULE, it is one man, influenced by Giovanni, on a power trip to ruin a team's chances of advancing. I cannot speak to the ties between the ultimate ref and Giovanni, but if you look at the facts, the NPPL rules, and the ultimate ref's decision, you can come to your own conclusion.

#7. We were given an ultimatum by the ultimate judge: PLAY OR GO HOME, PERIOD! While we were outraged and tried everything to do to persuade him that this was way out of line, his mind was made up. So, being as it may we suited up and played. No one's head was in the right spot after this slap in the face, we did not have time to adjust our game plan, we barely were given enough time to get paint and air and step onto the field and thus we lost.

So, all in all, don't be mad at the NPPL refs, they have a job to do, mistakes are made all the time and I completely understand that. We have had many go against us, and some for us, it usually evens out. If you want someone to blame, the Ultimate ref is the one at greatest fault here. I harbor no hard feelings towards the NXN players, but if I was them I'd be ashamed to advance given the illegitimacy of their win.
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Old 05-13-2007, 01:38 PM #2
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Old 05-13-2007, 01:39 PM #3
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Where was NURV's "Do-over" when they got ****ed at HB? Where a sideliner screamed out "TIME!" and the NURV players walked and then got shot?

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That is complete bull****. I honestly dont even know what to say to that because theres no way in hell thats supposed to happen. The only advice i have is.......Start playing xball
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Old 05-13-2007, 01:40 PM #5
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Old 05-13-2007, 01:41 PM #6
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Old 05-13-2007, 01:42 PM #7
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Old 05-13-2007, 01:43 PM #8
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Cant wait to hear this from both sides...

A Do over ? Never...
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Wouldn't it be NPPL makes history..?

But man.. I'd be absolutely pissed if I was on Nurv. That sucks completely.
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Old 05-13-2007, 01:46 PM #13
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Uh... I recall PSP had to replay some matches because the head-ref on a field was essentially giving points to another team and coaching them on the field... etc.
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Retarded call on the NPPL's part.
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Uh... I recall PSP had to replay some matches because the head-ref on a field was essentially giving points to another team and coaching them on the field... etc.
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