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View Poll Results: What religion are you?
Catholic 8 6.61%
Christian (Any Non-Catholic Sect) 47 38.84%
Jewish 4 3.31%
Muslim 5 4.13%
Hindu 0 0%
Neo-Pagan 1 0.83%
Agnostic/Deist/Buddhist 16 13.22%
Atheist 28 23.14%
Satanist 2 1.65%
Other 10 8.26%
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Old 04-07-2007, 10:15 PM #43
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I'm Agnostic because it's the only one that makes any damn sense to me. When any side shows me any shred of proof, I'll take a look. Otherwise, it's just ridiculous in my eyes.
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this doesn't appear to be just agnostic, to me.

there are lots of "shreds" of evidences for many religions. or are you looking for proof?
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Old 04-07-2007, 10:23 PM #44
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interesting:

this doesn't appear to be just agnostic, to me.

there are lots of "shreds" of evidences for many religions. or are you looking for proof?
a. It's a joke
b. Show me something stronger than faith.
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a. It's a joke
b. Show me something stronger than faith.
(sorry, not a very funny joke, to me - it "screams" - give me attention, I want to get a reaction out of you. - especially with your avatar of the Petrine cross - a "Christian Symbol" - that later has become a symbol of anti-Christianity, and some kinds of satanism).

what is "stronger than faith" mean to you? I could show you archaeological evidences and textual evidences of people and places that are in the Bible. We could discuss the textual accuracy of the OT, based on the finds in the dead sea scrolls.

the sheer numbers of (Biblical) manuscripts available, and the relatively minuscule numbers of other (non-Biblical) documents that are otherwise considered "historically accurate" - yet the ones with only a few copies that are not "Bible", are accepted, nearly without question, but since the others that are "canon" are "Bible", they are automatically discredited by those very same people that accept the "historical" documents.

Perhaps an instantaneous changed life?, the miracles that have been witnessed? of course all that has elements of faith. No, I can't "prove" God is, or did anything, but that wasn't what you asked for. What do you consider a "shred".
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psst...
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(sorry, not a very funny joke, to me - it "screams" - give me attention, I want to get a reaction out of you. - especially with your avatar of the Petrine cross - a "Christian Symbol" - that later has become a symbol of anti-Christianity, and some kinds of satanism).

what is "stronger than faith" mean to you? I could show you archaeological evidences and textual evidences of people and places that are in the Bible. We could discuss the textual accuracy of the OT, based on the finds in the dead sea scrolls.

the sheer numbers of (Biblical) manuscripts available, and the relatively minuscule numbers of other (non-Biblical) documents that are otherwise considered "historically accurate" - yet the ones with only a few copies that are not "Bible", are accepted, nearly without question, but since the others that are "canon" are "Bible", they are automatically discredited by those very same people that accept the "historical" documents.

Perhaps an instantaneous changed life?, the miracles that have been witnessed? of course all that has elements of faith. No, I can't "prove" God is, or did anything, but that wasn't what you asked for. What do you consider a "shred".
RP, I can never understand this. I was told my entire life that the bible was never invented to be a historical text, this was by man different religion teachers I had throughout my catholic schooling. Not to mention youth pastors in my church. So should we take it as a historical text?
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(sorry, not a very funny joke, to me - it "screams" - give me attention, I want to get a reaction out of you. - especially with your avatar of the Petrine cross - a "Christian Symbol" - that later has become a symbol of anti-Christianity, and some kinds of satanism).
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what is "stronger than faith" mean to you? I could show you archaeological evidences and textual evidences of people and places that are in the Bible. We could discuss the textual accuracy of the OT, based on the finds in the dead sea scrolls.

the sheer numbers of (Biblical) manuscripts available, and the relatively minuscule numbers of other (non-Biblical) documents that are otherwise considered "historically accurate" - yet the ones with only a few copies that are not "Bible", are accepted, nearly without question, but since the others that are "canon" are "Bible", they are automatically discredited by those very same people that accept the "historical" documents.
You have to see this from my perspective: How does any of this make a religion true?

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Perhaps an instantaneous changed life?, the miracles that have been witnessed? of course all that has elements of faith. No, I can't "prove" God is, or did anything, but that wasn't what you asked for. What do you consider a "shred".
Yep, and that's where we're different. Faith isn't enough for me. And, actually, I did ask for proof. It was in my first post in this thread.
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that's what you voted for.
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RP, I can never understand this. I was told my entire life that the bible was never invented to be a historical text, this was by man different religion teachers I had throughout my catholic schooling. Not to mention youth pastors in my church. So should we take it as a historical text?
The Bible is not a historical document, bit contains some history. my point is that some of the other docs that I mentioned also contain "other" materials as well, but they are accepted as "historical documents".
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