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Old 01-10-2007, 01:28 PM #43
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under rated brian westbrook, tory holt, roy williams(wr), marvin harrison

over rated, shaun alexander, tony romo, T.O
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Old 01-10-2007, 02:46 PM #44
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How is McNabb overrated? Before he got hurt, he was leading the NFC in like every stat imaginable?
In my opinion (and please don't kill me), McNabb is not smart enough to run an NFL offense, it doesn't seem like he thinks quick enough and when he is under pressure he forces a lot of balls. When he has a lot of time, he is great. He also chokes in key situations, like in the Super Bowl when the Eagles were in a no-huddle and he called them back because he felt sick.
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shaun alexander, tony romo, T.O
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And about McNabb: I don't think he gets a lot of credit to begin with, especially because of the injury problems he has. People like Eli Manning are/were expected to do good, but they just fail. Like the last two seasons Eli has started out great, but just can't keep it together at the end of the season.
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RB: Marion Barber
You've GOT to be kidding me. I haven't heard much at all about him on any sports shows. He had more touchdowns than Westbrook and he was splitting carries. He rushed for 13 and received 2. I guess since you guys shut him down he must be overrated

You could not be any more biased with your opinions.
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And about McNabb: I don't think he gets a lot of credit to begin with, especially because of the injury problems he has. People like Eli Manning are/were expected to do good, but they just fail. Like the last two seasons Eli has started out great, but just can't keep it together at the end of the season.
well, for the past years (not so much this year because they lost huchinson, but alexander didnt play to much this year anyway) but he had the best line in football and arguably the best fullback in football

romo because everyone thought he was the best player in the NFL after 2 games, although I do think he will be great.

T.O because he drops to many balls
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well, for the past years (not so much this year because they lost huchinson, but alexander didnt play to much this year anyway) but he had the best line in football and arguably the best fullback in football

romo because everyone thought he was the best player in the NFL after 2 games, although I do think he will be great.

T.O because he drops to many balls
So? Alexander isn't "overrated" and T.O. drops a couple here and there. I predict both will be going to Canton.
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my point is anyone could suceed as a running back on the seahawks the past couple of years and currently and T.O drops so many balls and has lost the game for his team a couple of times.
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In my opinion (and please don't kill me), McNabb is not smart enough to run an NFL offense, it doesn't seem like he thinks quick enough and when he is under pressure he forces a lot of balls. When he has a lot of time, he is great. He also chokes in key situations, like in the Super Bowl when the Eagles were in a no-huddle and he called them back because he felt sick.
So basically you're saying if you were playing in the Super Bowl, millions of people watching you nationally, you are solely responsible for winning, no huddle because time is winding down and you need a score, you WOULDN'T feel sick?

Get real.
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Also remember During the first few years Mcnabb had to carry the Eagles team on his back. Before 2004 He was throwing to Freddy Mitchell and Todd Pinkston. ( Both out of football ) . And also to make matters worse he was throwing to those scrubs 60 percent of the time. If we would of had a balanced attack, we would of had atleast One ring.

Also about MB getting more touchdowns, his longest run was 25 yards this year. He's gotten most of his touchdowns inside the 10. And Julius Jones only has 4 touchdowns. Julius Gets the team inside the red zone but MB gets with the credit.
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Overrated:

QB: Phillip Rivers, Tony Romo, MICHAEL VICK
RB: LaDainian Tomlinson (Gets consistently shut down by good run D's...The media fails to notices)
WR: Terrell Owens

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QB: Marc Bulger, Ben Roethlisberger (At times)
RB: Frank Gore, Willie Parker, Stephen Jackson
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QB: Phillip Rivers, Tony Romo, MICHAEL VICK
RB: LaDainian Tomlinson (Gets consistently shut down by good run D's...The media fails to notices)
WR: Terrell Owens
Wow rofl.
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Explain? Want to see stats?

LT in 2006 had big games against these teams...

OAK-Hardly a good run D

STL-Ditto

CLE-LOL

OAK-Again.

KC-Again...Mediocre to poor. Even though they also held him to 66 yards in a different game.

LT got shut down in these games...

@BAL-98 yards BUT-3.8 AVG which is below league average.

PIT- He had 38 yards...

@SF

As you can see...He mops up on lesser competition. Still laughing? And if you were actually contesting any of the other 4 players listed, I would like to hear about it.
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I bet you play fantasy football too, right?

Do you watch football or do you jack off to stats?
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LT in 2006 had big games against these teams...

OAK-Hardly a good run D

STL-Ditto

CLE-LOL

OAK-Again.

KC-Again...Mediocre to poor. Even though they also held him to 66 yards in a different game.

LT got shut down in these games...

@BAL-98 yards BUT-3.8 AVG which is below league average.

PIT- He had 38 yards...

@SF

As you can see...He mops up on lesser competition. Still laughing? And if you were actually contesting any of the other 4 players listed, I would like to hear about it.


Are you an ***? You do know Oakland had one of the best defenses in the NFL this year right? What about the Sunday night game @ Denver? A team that had never allowed him to go over 100 yards, and then again 4 weeks later when he tore them up again. 98 yards on the ground against Baltimore was very impressive, especially considering Marty took the ball out of Rivers hands and Baltimore knew EXACTLY what to expect. He got shutdown at San Fran? Last I knew 4 TDs on the ground was far from getting shut down. Buffalo is no slouch on defense, yet he was able to rack up 178 yards and 2 TDs. And just FYI, KC's defense is much better then "mediocore to poor". You dont know what your talking about, stop now before you make a complete moron out of yourself.
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Old 01-10-2007, 11:20 PM #58
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Here are some stats for you:

San Diego Chargers: 14-2 AFC West champs (with Philip Rivers and LT, mind you )
Dallas Cowboys: 9-7 and went to the playoffs (with Romo and T.O )

Both of those teams played in the hardest division in football, by the way.



Now for your underrated players' teams...

St. Louis: 8-8 (No post season for these guys)
Pittsburg: 8-8 (Again, no playoffs)
San Francisco: 7-9 (You guessed it! No playoffs)


Weird.
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I don't see how Gore is underrated. I think he's rated who he is. He's also the starter in the probowl for the NFC.

How is that underrated?

He also fumbled 6 times and lost 5 of them.
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LT in 2006 had big games against these teams...

OAK-Hardly a good run D

STL-Ditto

CLE-LOL

OAK-Again.

KC-Again...Mediocre to poor. Even though they also held him to 66 yards in a different game.

LT got shut down in these games...

@BAL-98 yards BUT-3.8 AVG which is below league average.

PIT- He had 38 yards...

@SF

As you can see...He mops up on lesser competition. Still laughing? And if you were actually contesting any of the other 4 players listed, I would like to hear about it.
Philip Rivers in Pittsburg game: 24-37, 222 yards, 2 touchdowns and 1 INT...

There you go Mr. Stats whore.

And I think you forgot the games against Buffalo, Denver x2 and Cincinnati, all teams with excellent run defense (cinci's is lacklustre)... Look those ones up Mr. Stats whore.

You also forgot to meantion how poorly he did against SF, under 50 yards rushing I think? Oh yea! I forgot, LT also produces a huge pass game... You forgot to understand that LT has a ton of passing yards/touchdowns. Maybe you overlooked all that because they won 48-17.
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Pst, Mr Sparkle, LT only had 26 attempts for 98 yards against Baltimore. And Cinci doesnt have an excellent run defense by any stretch. But Im just sayin...
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Old 01-11-2007, 12:08 AM #62
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There. I fixed it, but my point still stands. LT is an amazing RB that is also an excellent pass option. This is why SD is the best team in the NFL right now, because they can make all there players do everything.
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Agreed 100%. But they're still gonna lose to Indy in the AFCCG.
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