[RamboPreacher]

Originally Posted by NCNC

The pope started the crusades. That is a church/religion based war.

While there is some common history in RCC, as was said - the Pope and papacy is not the head of the Christian church. they may proclaim universal church leadership in Christianity, but that has not been the case, from the beginning. even in the earliest Christian Churches, there has been "denominations", or sects of Christianity. In this case, the point is that there has never really been a single organization that was "the" Christian Church. Even if the Petrine idea (papacy) was a universal Christian leadership, that still doesn't mean all of Christianity followed or believed how that particular leader (depending on which crusade you are in reference) lead.

[Hero]

http://gbgm-umc.org/umw/bible/crusades.stm

"Pope Urban II (1088-1099) was responsible for assisting Emperor Alexus I (1081-1118) of Constantinople in launching the first crusade. He made one of the most influential speeches in the Middle Ages, calling on Christian princes in Europe to go on a crusade to rescue the Holy Land from the Turks. In the speech given at the Council of Clermont in France, on November 27, 1095, he combined the ideas of making a pilgrimage to the Holy Land with that of waging a holy war against infidels."

dragged this from another thread.
I can think of 2 off the top of my head that were related almost directly to the pope. But mostly the crusades were done IN THE NAME OF religion by a emperor or king. Not that said religion was gonna step in and say "hey...ummm...mind not involving us?"

[907ak (Banned)]

Originally Posted by Hoytie

Don't worry. They won't move into your Playstation uninvited.

but they will go door to door uninvited trying to convert you

[Hero]

Originally Posted by 907ak

but they will go door to door uninvited trying to convert you

The second amendment usually says to door to door preachers "your not welcome". At least thats what I use.

[agentdowell]

Originally Posted by RamboPreacher

wait a minute. are you saying it is any worse than any of the other violent and law-disobeying games out there? why not talk about games that spread stealing cars, or running over people, or other violent anti-social acts. just because it is a "Christian" game, it has to be picked out as "horrible"? I suppose when the "conservatives" pick out the other violent games and anti-social games as teaching/spreading something you same folks want to be quick to defend those games?

not saying you do or don't, but come on, lets at least use the same logic.

Actually it's the same people who dispise GTA that are in support of this game.

[XOne (Banned)]

No one should care about some video game.

[NCNC (Banned)]

Originally Posted by agentdowell

Actually it's the same people who dispise GTA that are in support of this game.

Like that is surprising