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12-06-2006, 04:23 PM
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#2 Anti Stim Club Member!
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Religion, Good for humanity, or the bane of it?
Well now folks lets jump right in shall we.
You all know my stance, I have yet to see even ONE good thing religion has brought to humanity. Yet I can point out thousands of things it has ruined or forced apon society as a whole.
lets kick off this new topic right shall we, all is fair, I will even try to refrain from my normal flames 
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A democracy is, two wolves and a sheep voting on dinner.
A republic is, two sheep and a wolf voting on dinner.
A constitutional republic is, voting on dinner is expressly forbidden and the sheep are armed.
Armed gays don't get bashed - www.pinkpistols.org
ssgaR: 'faith is the path of least resistance'."
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12-06-2006, 04:26 PM
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sprezzatura
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It answered questions when there were no answers. Things were blamed on God when we didn't know what else to blame them on. Now a days, we come to realize that there is an explanation for these things, and it just slows down science.
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12-06-2006, 04:29 PM
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Balls.
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: St. Louis, Missouri
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Originally Posted by RandomMemberofPBN
Overbear - Gays should have the right to do everything and anything they want. Religion is evil and stupid. If you disagree with anything I say, you are automatically an idiot and a biggot to boot.
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LOL.
EDIT: And just to make sure you get the equality you deserve  :
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Originally Posted by RMOFPBN
Here guys, let me summarize everything in it for you:
Wizzo - Its all a zionist plot. The Jews are evil. Hitler had the right idea.
Random poster - Bush sucks
XPaint - Let me calmly and rationally explain the Bible. Also, Bush hasn't been that bad.
Random posters - disagree with everything said because they want to.
Wash, rinse, repeat.
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12-06-2006, 04:33 PM
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Veritas Vos Liberabit
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Religion gives salvation and inner peace to many millions of people around the world, I've seen it save lives of many people. And we've all seen it take lives of people as well. This argument is pointless, as Religion is niether good or bad for humanitary, but neccesary for the balance of the world.
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12-06-2006, 04:35 PM
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Indestructible
Join Date: May 2005
Location: West Seneca,NY
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Originally Posted by Overbear
Well now folks lets jump right in shall we.
You all know my stance, I have yet to see even ONE good thing religion has brought to humanity. Yet I can point out thousands of things it has ruined or forced apon society as a whole.
lets kick off this new topic right shall we, all is fair, I will even try to refrain from my normal flames |
I'm an atheist but religion gives a forum for those with the same believes to come together and commit to those beliefs which in most cases aren't the twisted crap that extremists spew (which are a small minority of any religion). |
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12-06-2006, 04:36 PM
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batter
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Central Minnesota
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Religions are a joke. Why the hell do we have a subforum for made up ****?
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12-06-2006, 04:42 PM
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Like all things, it can be good or bad, depending on how people use or abuse it. It can do wonderful things, like give hope or inspire other people to do good, or it can be used to destroy others or inspire people to do evil.
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Doesn't matter what the press says. Doesn't matter what the politicians or the mobs say. Doesn't matter if the whole country decides that something wrong is something right. This nation was founded on one principle above all else: the requirement that we stand up for what we believe, no matter the odds or the consequences. When the mob and the press and the whole world tell you to move, your job is to plant yourself like a tree beside the river of truth, and tell the whole world - "No, you move."
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12-06-2006, 04:42 PM
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A dream within a dream
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Central Wisconsin
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Originally Posted by Eulogy
Religions are a joke. Why the hell do we have a subforum for made up <del>****</del>?
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Why do we have a subforum for movies? |
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12-06-2006, 04:46 PM
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Balls.
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: St. Louis, Missouri
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Originally Posted by Eulogy
Religions are a joke. Why the hell do we have a subforum for made up ****?
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Originally Posted by Pump Scout
Why do we have a subforum for movies?
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GDT! If you want an audience,
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Free from discrimination.
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12-06-2006, 04:54 PM
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Wait . . . movies aren't real!?!?!? 
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Doesn't matter what the press says. Doesn't matter what the politicians or the mobs say. Doesn't matter if the whole country decides that something wrong is something right. This nation was founded on one principle above all else: the requirement that we stand up for what we believe, no matter the odds or the consequences. When the mob and the press and the whole world tell you to move, your job is to plant yourself like a tree beside the river of truth, and tell the whole world - "No, you move."
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12-06-2006, 05:01 PM
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oh, the machines we are.
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Salem, Va
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Originally Posted by Overbear
Well now folks lets jump right in shall we.
You all know my stance, I have yet to see even ONE good thing religion has brought to humanity. Yet I can point out thousands of things it has ruined or forced apon society as a whole.
lets kick off this new topic right shall we, all is fair, I will even try to refrain from my normal flames |
The main argument against religion is "it starts wars". Wars will always be fought, religion or no religion...
What good does it do? Well, it gives character - stops many from breaking (or breaking repeatedly) the 10 Commandments. |
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12-06-2006, 05:04 PM
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Originally Posted by paintballonaim
The main argument against religion is "it starts wars". Wars will always be fought, religion or no religion...
What good does it do? Well, it gives character - stops many from breaking (or breaking repeatedly) the 10 Commandments.
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Then there is the whole Mother Teresea thing. The woman did everything she did because of religion (or at least, that is how the rest of you will see it).
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Doesn't matter what the press says. Doesn't matter what the politicians or the mobs say. Doesn't matter if the whole country decides that something wrong is something right. This nation was founded on one principle above all else: the requirement that we stand up for what we believe, no matter the odds or the consequences. When the mob and the press and the whole world tell you to move, your job is to plant yourself like a tree beside the river of truth, and tell the whole world - "No, you move."
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12-06-2006, 05:06 PM
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#2 Anti Stim Club Member!
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Originally Posted by Eulogy
Religions are a joke. Why the hell do we have a subforum for made up ****?
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because despite my anti-religion stance, Even I believe in open comunication and dialog about it.
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"Laws that forbid the carrying of arms . . . disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes . . . Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man - Thomas Jefferson
A democracy is, two wolves and a sheep voting on dinner.
A republic is, two sheep and a wolf voting on dinner.
A constitutional republic is, voting on dinner is expressly forbidden and the sheep are armed.
Armed gays don't get bashed - www.pinkpistols.org
ssgaR: 'faith is the path of least resistance'."
Rapier7: Don't be a douche
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12-06-2006, 05:08 PM
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Celebrate Diversity
Join Date: Sep 2003
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I believe if there was no religion the world would probably be over already
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12-06-2006, 05:09 PM
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#2 Anti Stim Club Member!
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Originally Posted by paintballonaim
The main argument against religion is "it starts wars". Wars will always be fought, religion or no religion...
What good does it do? Well, it gives character - stops many from breaking (or breaking repeatedly) the 10 Commandments.
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No no, my main argument is that it alters what would normaly be a open dialog and view, into a narrowed and singular view.
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"Laws that forbid the carrying of arms . . . disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes . . . Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man - Thomas Jefferson
A democracy is, two wolves and a sheep voting on dinner.
A republic is, two sheep and a wolf voting on dinner.
A constitutional republic is, voting on dinner is expressly forbidden and the sheep are armed.
Armed gays don't get bashed - www.pinkpistols.org
ssgaR: 'faith is the path of least resistance'."
Rapier7: Don't be a douche
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12-06-2006, 05:26 PM
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The dude abides
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Originally Posted by SuperSupra619
I believe if there was no religion the world would probably be over already
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What? Why?
You do realize there have been millions of humans killeed because of religion?
I'd say it would be more of the opposite. If there was never a religion since the beginning, we would probably be at least fifty more years advanced. |
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12-06-2006, 05:46 PM
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missionary work is good if it is done correctly. when the church i go to does mission work they do not bring up religon unless asked why are you doing this or asked a question about religon. but like all things in christianity the wrong people get in charge and force their self important and hypocritical belief down starving peoples throat instead of food.
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12-06-2006, 05:56 PM
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Personally I am an aetheist, but could you imagine what would happen if people started killing eachother without the threat of judgement in a next life?
Edit-...I am stupid, what about battles fought over the centuries based on religion?
Last edited by HockeyMW5 : 12-06-2006 at 06:01 PM.
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12-06-2006, 06:01 PM
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Oscar Whiskey
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Houston, TX
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Originally Posted by toolbandfan
What? Why?
You do realize there have been millions of humans killeed because of religion?
I'd say it would be more of the opposite. If there was never a religion since the beginning, we would probably be at least fifty more years advanced.
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Ha! Yeah, such advancements that have made it easier for mankind to destroy each other. Thanks science...
Overbear, if anything you should blame your own homosexuality for the perpetuating of religion. Think about it; what does the church require of its servants? Chaste individuals who acknowledge the pangs of their own guilt and seek to make recompense for it. So what better way to serve a religion, which would otherwise damn them for what they are, in hopes to find forgiveness. Plus as an added bonus they are surrounded by countless members of the same sex, which would only serve as a temptation of their wicked ways to fight to prove their righteousness to God. By supressing their own sexual urges and condeming those who don't, why they are only doing what they feel is right. Seriously, do you think a straight man would truely deny his own sexual desires and tendencies? To never know the touch of a woman? If you believe that then you should look under your keyboard to see if someone wrote "gullible" on it... |
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12-06-2006, 06:19 PM
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Front Lean and Rest
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Maine
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It was good at first because it gave us simple rules to live by but now we have changed and are sophisticated enough that we no longer should abide to rules made thousands of years ago.
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12-06-2006, 06:27 PM
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FSM=FTW
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Athens, GA
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religion is like technology, it helps alot of people, but it'll kill us all one day
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