[screamin_nuts]

if they be subtly touchin you and laughing at the things you say.

flick of the hair with a smile on their face....
if they look interested in the things your talking about even if they have no clue...


youl just know.....just be like you dont care at all and be yourselfa nd girls will come to you.


putting up a front will ultimately lead you to do stupid things and thusly resulting in the "pff uhgg" reaction from girls.

[P8ntLife189]

Disclaimer, the following problem could be labeled as stupid and emo, if you are "that kid" who flames people for **** like this dont read it and just move on, if you think your mature enough not to be a dick than read it, thanks


So I met this girl in July of this year, her names Bianca, I already knew her from 8th grade (im now in 11th) and we were friends, tried going out but she was more mature than i was and it ultimately failed in like a week (yah i knw) but this summer we met up again and hit it off really good, i found out she has a bf, at that time they would have been going out for about 9 months, so im like w/e we'll see where this goes, all in all we basically fell for eachother, but she wouldnt dump the bf, and i got impatient and confronted her one day and basically said, this is really weird for me that you're still with john, but you act like your with me, whats going on, i dont want to be led on, and she freaked out, got pretty mad and that was fight #1, it was all downhill from there. But we stayed really good friends but it was a really weird friendship, cuz it honestly seemed like we were going out, i saw her like every day of the week, she slept over alot, my moms insane and lets her sleep in my room with me, but we had never had sex she refused to do anything more than like 2nd base cause of the bf, now the bf is a total dickhead, he doesnt do anything for her, and treats her like ****, shes his gf when its convenient for him, and she thinks this kids the best thing in the world, also when she started going out with this kid, she just ended an almost 2 year relationship, so the bf (john) was basically a rebound

time passes by, we stay really close, get into a couple more little fights that i just let go because i was scared if i told her how reality is, she'd ditch me and ide lose the chance i still thought i had, the boyfriend has now cheated on her, but i wasnt very sympathetic, considering that she already cheated on him with me, and lies to him weekly saying shes with a friend (insert a girls name) but shes really with me, so i ask her one morning point blank, go out with me, and she says no (continues to kiss me) and i go wait wait why, she replys she doesnt want to mess with our friendship, i go...friends? not many of my friends have me mounted and are kissing me...she couldnt reply, but she basically said no

times passes by its now like last week haha, and her and bf are broken up, and heres why...they got into a fight, he said he couldnt trust her, but they made up, then had sex, and no lie, 10 minutes afterwards, he dumps her, conclusion...yes we all know, this kid used her for sex, and dumped her, she got ****ed over big time, and i was there to pick up the pieces, couple days later he shows up at her house, she calls and tells me, i say...ill be over in 10 minutes, and so i show up, fully wanting to fight this kid, and she comes outside, and tells me to get off her property, i said bianca seriously wat are you doing with yourself, she didnt wanna listen, that night we got into a big fight where i told her how reality is, that her bf is a scum bag who doesnt give a ****, and how shes a cheater and liar, and how sometimes i feel like i cant trust her because of that, and she snapped, we were done talking for a day or so, and i begged her to talk to me, and she forgave me, but she didnt forget, its now like 2 days ago, and she says to me..."im going back to john" and i reply "good luck, see ya round" she calls me swearing at me and **** asking what the **** my problem was, i said hey listen its me or john, im not going to be part of these lies anymore, its not right to anyone involved, she says she only wants to be friends and that i should just be happy with that, i said no, we cant be just friends, i have feelings for you that get in the way of us being friends, it wont work, its me or john, you cant have your cake and eat it to, cause if i went back to the friends thing, it'd be me and her together alot, and she'd just lie to john about what she was doing, i couldnt take it, it was to weird, so i jsut told her straight up, you gotta make a choice, she picked john, so we're done talking,

but i feel like **** right now guys, like did i do anything wrong here? seriously i feel like ****, i feel empty, depressed, confused about whats gunna happen to me, cause honestly i dont know what to do with my life at this point, i dunno shes just some girl yah i know, but i think what im asking you guys is, is this my fault? should i have just stayed her friend? was i wrong in the choice i made? ide give anything right now for her to call me and say i decided your more important to me than john, but i know she wont, it sucks
if you read this whole thing i really gotta hand it to you, thats a **** load of reading right there, so please help me out, thanks


Thanks,
Justin

to the longest girl problem in the history of ST
i always knew ide get the gold for this

[p8ntballr1125]

^ I think you did the right thing in making her choose. Let a week or so pass by, and see how she reacts to not talking to you. I think she will come crawling back, but im not sure. She seemed like more of a friend with the making out and stuff. But remember, she is only one girl. Once you find another you will completely get over Bianca. IMO, she isnt worth the time and trouble to be around unless she comes around and starts to realise what a bad choice she has made.

Wait for Bleachednblonde or T mo.

Edit* and to Justins

[felicityrose]

Aw man... she's one confused chica. Girls want what they can't (or aren't allowed to) have. When she was emotionally distraught with John, she came to you for comfort because she knew you would give it to her. You were considered off limits because she was tied to someone else. Once they broke up and you made yourself a little too available, she freaked. It was very good of you to make her choose because this behavior would likely have been repetitive. Let her know that you think that John's a creep for using her and that she deserves better (even if she doesn't think it's you). You are a good guy (much better than most HS kids that I know/knew); don't let this get you down too bad.

[moo_moo_face]

Originally Posted by 12345421

Ya, what kind of move will you make if physical contact is pretty much a no...



Anyway, now for my problem...

I was out with my friends tonight and coming home we were all packed into my friends 93' Lincoln Towncar (it's 19 feet long, lol) and there were six of us. I was in the passenger seat with this girl beside me and my friend driving with my other friends in the back. Now this girl seemed to be throwing out hints, but I'm not sure. She gave me a few close hugs sometimes, but since I had no clue on how to interpret this, I made no move.

So what I am asking is what are some good strong hints that a girl makes that gives the guy the go ahead...

And hypothetically speaking, if I had made a move in the car, and we started making out/groping or something, would it have been inappropriate in my friends car, in the front seat, while he is driving?

well next time you see her, make some sort of move. but in your freinds car, no it would not be appropriate

[moo_moo_face]

Originally Posted by P8ntLife189

Disclaimer, the following problem could be labeled as stupid and emo, if you are "that kid" who flames people for **** like this dont read it and just move on, if you think your mature enough not to be a dick than read it, thanks


So I met this girl in July of this year, her names Bianca, I already knew her from 8th grade (im now in 11th) and we were friends, tried going out but she was more mature than i was and it ultimately failed in like a week (yah i knw) but this summer we met up again and hit it off really good, i found out she has a bf, at that time they would have been going out for about 9 months, so im like w/e we'll see where this goes, all in all we basically fell for eachother, but she wouldnt dump the bf, and i got impatient and confronted her one day and basically said, this is really weird for me that you're still with john, but you act like your with me, whats going on, i dont want to be led on, and she freaked out, got pretty mad and that was fight #1, it was all downhill from there. But we stayed really good friends but it was a really weird friendship, cuz it honestly seemed like we were going out, i saw her like every day of the week, she slept over alot, my moms insane and lets her sleep in my room with me, but we had never had sex she refused to do anything more than like 2nd base cause of the bf, now the bf is a total dickhead, he doesnt do anything for her, and treats her like ****, shes his gf when its convenient for him, and she thinks this kids the best thing in the world, also when she started going out with this kid, she just ended an almost 2 year relationship, so the bf (john) was basically a rebound

time passes by, we stay really close, get into a couple more little fights that i just let go because i was scared if i told her how reality is, she'd ditch me and ide lose the chance i still thought i had, the boyfriend has now cheated on her, but i wasnt very sympathetic, considering that she already cheated on him with me, and lies to him weekly saying shes with a friend (insert a girls name) but shes really with me, so i ask her one morning point blank, go out with me, and she says no (continues to kiss me) and i go wait wait why, she replys she doesnt want to mess with our friendship, i go...friends? not many of my friends have me mounted and are kissing me...she couldnt reply, but she basically said no

times passes by its now like last week haha, and her and bf are broken up, and heres why...they got into a fight, he said he couldnt trust her, but they made up, then had sex, and no lie, 10 minutes afterwards, he dumps her, conclusion...yes we all know, this kid used her for sex, and dumped her, she got ****ed over big time, and i was there to pick up the pieces, couple days later he shows up at her house, she calls and tells me, i say...ill be over in 10 minutes, and so i show up, fully wanting to fight this kid, and she comes outside, and tells me to get off her property, i said bianca seriously wat are you doing with yourself, she didnt wanna listen, that night we got into a big fight where i told her how reality is, that her bf is a scum bag who doesnt give a ****, and how shes a cheater and liar, and how sometimes i feel like i cant trust her because of that, and she snapped, we were done talking for a day or so, and i begged her to talk to me, and she forgave me, but she didnt forget, its now like 2 days ago, and she says to me..."im going back to john" and i reply "good luck, see ya round" she calls me swearing at me and **** asking what the **** my problem was, i said hey listen its me or john, im not going to be part of these lies anymore, its not right to anyone involved, she says she only wants to be friends and that i should just be happy with that, i said no, we cant be just friends, i have feelings for you that get in the way of us being friends, it wont work, its me or john, you cant have your cake and eat it to, cause if i went back to the friends thing, it'd be me and her together alot, and she'd just lie to john about what she was doing, i couldnt take it, it was to weird, so i jsut told her straight up, you gotta make a choice, she picked john, so we're done talking,

but i feel like **** right now guys, like did i do anything wrong here? seriously i feel like ****, i feel empty, depressed, confused about whats gunna happen to me, cause honestly i dont know what to do with my life at this point, i dunno shes just some girl yah i know, but i think what im asking you guys is, is this my fault? should i have just stayed her friend? was i wrong in the choice i made? ide give anything right now for her to call me and say i decided your more important to me than john, but i know she wont, it sucks
if you read this whole thing i really gotta hand it to you, thats a **** load of reading right there, so please help me out, thanks


Thanks,
Justin

to the longest girl problem in the history of ST
i always knew ide get the gold for this

i dont know if its the right choice, but its what i would've done.
if she isnt willing to help herself, theres nothing you can do for her. it sucks and its gonna hurt for a while, but eventually she will either realize how dumb she was, or you will get over her

[Blackdog455]

how do you stop liking a girl? But still want to be "friends" with her? I mean i still like this girl, but she hurts me emotionally way to much, and i feel as if all she does is ignore me to...ive pretty much had it with her...

[Makaveli92]

I really love this girl, but I can't tell if she is shallow or not because I haven't got to know her that much. We talk every day and we're good friends but I'm afraid of rejection. How can I tell if she has interest? I doubt she does, but how can I get her to see that personality is more important than looks (if she is shallow, I'm not sure if she is or not)?

[phatmatt25]

Originally Posted by Makaveli92

I really love this girl, but I can't tell if she is shallow or not because I haven't got to know her that much. We talk every day and we're good friends but I'm afraid of rejection. How can I tell if she has interest? I doubt she does, but how can I get her to see that personality is more important than looks (if she is shallow, I'm not sure if she is or not)?

I actually have the same problem but the girl that I like hasn't really talked to me since the beginning of this year, but if you have a good personality and you're hella fun to be around many girls will like you. Trust me, I'm not drop dead gorgeous but I'm pretty good looking, but honestly I have been with some of the hottest girls at my school.

[blaker615]

Originally Posted by Makaveli92

I really love this girl, but I can't tell if she is shallow or not because I haven't got to know her that much. We talk every day and we're good friends but I'm afraid of rejection. How can I tell if she has interest? I doubt she does, but how can I get her to see that personality is more important than looks (if she is shallow, I'm not sure if she is or not)?

if you want her bad enough, it shouldn't matter if she "likes you" or not.

[|Simplicity|]

Originally Posted by Makaveli92

I really love this girl, but I can't tell if she is shallow or not because I haven't got to know her that much. We talk every day and we're good friends but I'm afraid of rejection. How can I tell if she has interest? I doubt she does, but how can I get her to see that personality is more important than looks (if she is shallow, I'm not sure if she is or not)?

Most girls are not shallow, when it comes down to it, if you think that you are better then they are, then most of the time, they see you as there equal or about.
As like yesterday, i was talking to the ugliest girl i've ever seen, and she told me she loves anal.
She was the D.U.F.F. (Designated Ugly Fat Friend) of her friends, all of her friends were smokin, and all of her friends called me shallow because i didnt wanna do anything with them. Then I pretty much flatout told them i wouldnt do anything with them either, so it doesnt make a difference who i do anything with. (It is the truth, im trying to become commited to this one girl) And that got there attention, because i was the one guy out of all the guys there who said **** you to the hot ones, I bet now if i see them again i can sleep with them. because they see me as something they cant have.
So play the game as if the ***** smells like fish taco's for some minutes, and roses like the other.

[12345421]

Originally Posted by P8ntLife189

Disclaimer, the following problem could be labeled as stupid and emo, if you are "that kid" who flames people for **** like this dont read it and just move on, if you think your mature enough not to be a dick than read it, thanks


So I met this girl in July of this year, her names Bianca, I already knew her from 8th grade (im now in 11th) and we were friends, tried going out but she was more mature than i was and it ultimately failed in like a week (yah i knw) but this summer we met up again and hit it off really good, i found out she has a bf, at that time they would have been going out for about 9 months, so im like w/e we'll see where this goes, all in all we basically fell for eachother, but she wouldnt dump the bf, and i got impatient and confronted her one day and basically said, this is really weird for me that you're still with john, but you act like your with me, whats going on, i dont want to be led on, and she freaked out, got pretty mad and that was fight #1, it was all downhill from there. But we stayed really good friends but it was a really weird friendship, cuz it honestly seemed like we were going out, i saw her like every day of the week, she slept over alot, my moms insane and lets her sleep in my room with me, but we had never had sex she refused to do anything more than like 2nd base cause of the bf, now the bf is a total dickhead, he doesnt do anything for her, and treats her like ****, shes his gf when its convenient for him, and she thinks this kids the best thing in the world, also when she started going out with this kid, she just ended an almost 2 year relationship, so the bf (john) was basically a rebound

time passes by, we stay really close, get into a couple more little fights that i just let go because i was scared if i told her how reality is, she'd ditch me and ide lose the chance i still thought i had, the boyfriend has now cheated on her, but i wasnt very sympathetic, considering that she already cheated on him with me, and lies to him weekly saying shes with a friend (insert a girls name) but shes really with me, so i ask her one morning point blank, go out with me, and she says no (continues to kiss me) and i go wait wait why, she replys she doesnt want to mess with our friendship, i go...friends? not many of my friends have me mounted and are kissing me...she couldnt reply, but she basically said no

times passes by its now like last week haha, and her and bf are broken up, and heres why...they got into a fight, he said he couldnt trust her, but they made up, then had sex, and no lie, 10 minutes afterwards, he dumps her, conclusion...yes we all know, this kid used her for sex, and dumped her, she got ****ed over big time, and i was there to pick up the pieces, couple days later he shows up at her house, she calls and tells me, i say...ill be over in 10 minutes, and so i show up, fully wanting to fight this kid, and she comes outside, and tells me to get off her property, i said bianca seriously wat are you doing with yourself, she didnt wanna listen, that night we got into a big fight where i told her how reality is, that her bf is a scum bag who doesnt give a ****, and how shes a cheater and liar, and how sometimes i feel like i cant trust her because of that, and she snapped, we were done talking for a day or so, and i begged her to talk to me, and she forgave me, but she didnt forget, its now like 2 days ago, and she says to me..."im going back to john" and i reply "good luck, see ya round" she calls me swearing at me and **** asking what the **** my problem was, i said hey listen its me or john, im not going to be part of these lies anymore, its not right to anyone involved, she says she only wants to be friends and that i should just be happy with that, i said no, we cant be just friends, i have feelings for you that get in the way of us being friends, it wont work, its me or john, you cant have your cake and eat it to, cause if i went back to the friends thing, it'd be me and her together alot, and she'd just lie to john about what she was doing, i couldnt take it, it was to weird, so i jsut told her straight up, you gotta make a choice, she picked john, so we're done talking,

but i feel like **** right now guys, like did i do anything wrong here? seriously i feel like ****, i feel empty, depressed, confused about whats gunna happen to me, cause honestly i dont know what to do with my life at this point, i dunno shes just some girl yah i know, but i think what im asking you guys is, is this my fault? should i have just stayed her friend? was i wrong in the choice i made? ide give anything right now for her to call me and say i decided your more important to me than john, but i know she wont, it sucks
if you read this whole thing i really gotta hand it to you, thats a **** load of reading right there, so please help me out, thanks


Thanks,
Justin

to the longest girl problem in the history of ST
i always knew ide get the gold for this

Sounds like you did everything right to me. Go find another girl, but not to make her(Bianca) jealous , have the mindset that she(Bianca) is just the same as every other girl, and you will easily get over her.

Good luck man.

[P8ntLife189]

Originally Posted by felicityrose

Aw man... she's one confused chica. Girls want what they can't (or aren't allowed to) have. When she was emotionally distraught with John, she came to you for comfort because she knew you would give it to her. You were considered off limits because she was tied to someone else. Once they broke up and you made yourself a little too available, she freaked. It was very good of you to make her choose because this behavior would likely have been repetitive. Let her know that you think that John's a creep for using her and that she deserves better (even if she doesn't think it's you). You are a good guy (much better than most HS kids that I know/knew); don't let this get you down too bad.

thanks a ton everybody, bleachedblonde if you could read that too ide appreciate it, but FR you said i was to avalible, i get told this alot, what exactly does this mean, and how can i make myself less avalible

[toastersrcool]

Originally Posted by P8ntLife189

thanks a ton everybody, bleachedblonde if you could read that too ide appreciate it, but FR you said i was to avalible, i get told this alot, what exactly does this mean, and how can i make myself less avalible

dont throw yourself at the girl.......make her come to you. always remeber you are the prize

[bacon03]

Ok, here's my situation. I met this girl on myspace (). I sent her a freind request awhile ago because I thought she was a girl I knew but it turns out she wasn't. This girl is very attractive and she had alot of guy friends. Anyway, we talked on the internet a few times here and there. She goes to my school, but I havn't talked to her yet in person. I see her once in awhile after my history class but she is usually at her locker with a bunch of other guys. It just seems really awkward approaching her while she's at her locker and while she is talking to 3-4 other guys.

Any ideas on approaching her or getting to meet her in person?

[p8ntballr1125]

You already posted this.^

Its probably going to b awkward, but the longer you hold out and talk on myspace the weirder its going to be. Just go up and start talking to her. Make a good impression.

[bacon03]

I didn't post that before. But thanks for advice.

[|Simplicity|]

Originally Posted by bacon03

Ok, here's my situation. I met this girl on myspace (). I sent her a freind request awhile ago because I thought she was a girl I knew but it turns out she wasn't. This girl is very attractive and she had alot of guy friends. Anyway, we talked on the internet a few times here and there. She goes to my school, but I havn't talked to her yet in person. I see her once in awhile after my history class but she is usually at her locker with a bunch of other guys. It just seems really awkward approaching her while she's at her locker and while she is talking to 3-4 other guys.

Any ideas on approaching her or getting to meet her in person?

totally jus roll up in there, dont mind the other guys, say
'hey, i think i've seen you before, somewhere'
and no matter what she says i usually just say
'yeah well it was nice meeting you, maybe ill talk to you again sometime.'
and thats it. Now whenever you walk by eachother, she will most likely smile and say hey.

[p8ntballr1125]

Originally Posted by bacon03

I didn't post that before. But thanks for advice.

My mistake, it must have been someone else. Your welcome.

[P8ntLife189]

- to the myspace chick problem -

you met a girl on teh internet, its gunna be awkward get it over with asap, and it will be better that way

[Isabel]

I thought you were saving yourself for mioua? Or is that MWA? ha ha ha JK. Hey, you should stay with her; and see what happens. If you think you really love her why hurt her now? Wait til you go on to university; and then see what develops. If it is meant to be it will be. Cioa bella!