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Old 10-26-2006, 02:53 PM #85
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watch the pb star vid straight from the mouth of dan perez
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Old 10-26-2006, 02:59 PM #86
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watch the pb star vid straight from the mouth of dan perez
and dan perez is dead wrong, look at the pics. neither of Joy's armbands are pulled until after the last shot. BC and Alex's are on the other hand, and BC shot the last Joy player after his band was pulled. seriously, look at the pics, its not hard to see that what dan said is totally wrong. and no video or pic shows the first Joy player getting hit.
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Old 10-26-2006, 03:05 PM #87
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and dan perez is dead wrong, .
proving my point on who is to blame.
dude www.pbfilms.com look at the vid joy supporter saying he was shot right here. joy was shot first. a ref can call a player verbally dead before he pulls the bands
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Old 10-26-2006, 03:09 PM #88
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proving my point on who is to blame.
dude www.pbfimls.com look at the vid joy supporter saying he was shot right here. joy was shot first. a ref can call a player verbally dead before he pulls the bands
I've seen that vid, and all the other vids, and all the pics. a joy supporter? there's also many dynasty supporters (and most of the crowd at the game) that said BC was hit by the joy back player BEFORE going over the snake. so he said he said isnt going to work. on the Lucky video you can't see the Joy player getting hit, until he's well pass Alex, and that is from Alex shooting after he's out.
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k now shut up
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Old 10-26-2006, 03:17 PM #90
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k now shut up
lol...cool down there, no need to turn into a tard

that is Alex hitting him well after he's out. BC couldnt have hit them there, the bunker is blocking Scandal from BC getting him. look at the pic on blacklist, and how far Alex turns around to shoot Scandal, with about 4 shots alread on his shoulder.

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That was some bull**** preformed by Joy Division.
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Old 10-26-2006, 03:24 PM #92
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that shot came from Alex well after Alex was out
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all players do it turn on and atleast take the guy down. dan called him dead before he reached alex. both should have ben pulled but the ref didnt pull the joy guy first making bc forced to do that.

why pull the joy guy first cuz he himself said he was hit before he did alex.funny how some vids dont exist or work anymore?? wtf

game over DY MUTHA ****ING NASTY!
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all players do it turn on and atleast take the guy down. dan called him dead before he reached alex. both should have ben pulled but the ref didnt pull the joy guy first making bc forced to do that.

why pull the joy guy first cuz he himself said he was hit before he did alex.funny how some vids dont exist or work anymore?? wtf

game over DY MUTHA ****ING NASTY!
What website did the video you refer to? Pictures? Magically see it from hawaii? Stop before you embarrass yourself.
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^above in screen snapshot pbfilms.com says it in the corner pbstar.com had a vid even shows the refs explaing what was going on. check it out sometime. on pbfilms there isnt the video anymore. only kids belive in magic.
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all players do it turn on and atleast take the guy down. dan called him dead before he reached alex. both should have ben pulled but the ref didnt pull the joy guy first making bc forced to do that.

why pull the joy guy first cuz he himself said he was hit before he did alex.funny how some vids dont exist or work anymore?? wtf

game over DY MUTHA ****ING NASTY!
if the ref (28) thought the Joy player was out (Scandal), than why was ref 28 the one that ran up and pulled BC out, and can clearly be heard on video saying "you're both out" meaning BC and Scandal traded out?
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proving my point on who i blame for all of this pls watch the pbstar vid and listen to what he say's. i know u watched the vid on pbfilms wasnt up for a few minutes its back up now
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^above in screen snapshot pbfilms.com says it in the corner pbstar.com had a vid even shows the refs explaing what was going on. check it out sometime. on pbfilms there isnt the video anymore. only kids belive in magic.
the vid you linked before, and were that snapshot was taken from, does not show the Joy player getting hit by BC, it only shows Scandal getting hit by Alex long after he got Alex.
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http://www.paintballstar.com/pn/modu...2_itemId=68976

that shot came from Alex well after Alex was out
Not that it matters... but you skipped a pic.
http://www.paintballstar.com/pn/modu...2_itemId=68974

You can see Alex's barrel pointing at Scandal before he passes Alex. From this pic... you don't know who shot first... and from epik808 pic... it looks like they traded.

anyhow... good call, bad call, it's over.... we have the luxury of staring at pics and videos for 3 days... then make our own assumption of what a good call would be, but it's different when a ref has to make call right there and then... and that sequence of events occured like in like 10 seconds. They made the ruling from they saw within that 10 second time... They dont have pics and videos to look to review like we do... what's done is done.
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[quote=epik808]at this point joy is about to win the game on a BULL**** CALL IN JOYS FAVOR, only the joy guy is alive. he runs down and blows the piss out of alex then blows the piss out of BC any one would but the only reason why its all on BC hopper cuz BC shielded his face with his gun. now everyones dead but because of that! its automatically pull and hang to dynasty with everyone dead. game over!

the final reason why joy lost blame the last joy guy alive no one else that penalty resulted in dynastys win
peace out fellas gatta go to work wish i could stay home on pbnation all day. peace
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Per the rules Alex should have a 3 game suspension for the following see pic



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RULE 21.03 Three-Game Suspension. Players may be suspended, causing the team to play short for three games for the following infractions1) Outbursts. Throwing smaller equipment (e.g., goggles, harness) in an
unsportsmanlike like manner.
(2) Physical contact during or after play that does not result in injury (e.g., shove,grab, shoulder-bump).(3) Verbal Abuse. Verbally abusing any individual during or after play.
(4) Shooting at a Velocity of 320fps or higher.
(5) Not having a Barrel Blocking Device on maker in un goggled area.
(6) Not having the marker bagged outside Players Paddocks.
(7) Illegal Reentry. Player leaves the dead box and reenters the field, but does not shoot any paintball

BC should not have been able to hang the flag for the following reason from the rules.

NPPL Rule(3) Eliminated. Referee will signal when a player is eliminated by holding his
right hand on top of his head and pointing his left arm at the player who is
eliminated. The Referee will then pull the eliminated player’s armband. The
Referee cannot put a player back in after calling a player eliminated with a
hand signal.


and add this as well for both BC and Alex

NPPL Rule 18. Illegal Activities
18.01 Playing-On. A player that continues to play after being marked with paint is Playing-On. Playing-On includes, but is not limited to:
(i) Continuing to shoot or otherwise engage the opposition,BC
(ii) Continuing to move, except with respect to exiting the field by the most direct route or at the direction of a Referee,Alex
(iii)Talking, signaling or otherwise communicating, either to a Referee, opposing players or teammates, except that a player may say, “Hit” or, “Out” or something to that effect once,BC and Alex
(iv) Impeding the progress of opposition players or a Referee,
(v) Hampering a Referee in making a paint check or a call,
(vi) Discharging or degassing the marker or providing teammates with paintballs or equipment.
(vii) Remaining in the game while making no effort to leave the field.Alex

This is joys win not Dynasty's

Dynasty always has to make drama just to win...

dude the only reason hes grabbing him is b/c the guy is taking WAYY!!! to many shots on him... watch the video.. the guy puts at least 10 shots just on his head! any respectable player would have stoped at two.. Alex is just watching out for his team member and in that case the refs diddnt see no wrong... besides.... the physical conntact wasnt in a privoking manner he wasnt beeing physical to get *a rise* out of the joy player and in no way was it to be disrespectfull....... drop the subject please!
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dude the only reason hes grabbing him is b/c the guy is taking WAYY!!! to many shots on him... watch the video.. the guy puts at least 10 shots just on his head! any respectable player would have stoped at two.. Alex is just watching out for his team member and in that case the refs diddnt see no wrong... besides.... the physical conntact wasnt in a privoking manner he wasnt beeing physical to get *a rise* out of the joy player and in no way was it to be disrespectfull....... drop the subject please!
Untrue. I think BC had one hit on his mask, and it's unclear as to which joy player that came from, that may have been the mark that hit him out.

The JD player was the one shot in the head illegally, mind you. Illegally meaning BC's shot after his armband was pulled.

I call "watching out for my team member" punching some guy in the face. Should we allow that?
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k now shut up
notice how that is an Unobvious (sp) hit. as far as i know thats not playing on.
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From the looks of it, Joy #1 and fraige traded, then as Joy #1 slides into snake after the trade (he has not yet been called out or had an armband pulled) BC flies over and bunkers him, then Joy #2 comes in for the kill and trades with BC (as well as the ref, Joy #1 and fraige ). Shoulda gone to a 1 on 1.
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Alex was pulled at that point. (6.26 in the lucky video) The call on the field was that the JD player bunkered angel cleanly. BC came over and traded with the first JD player in the snake. The ref clearly says in the lucky video "both of you are out" at about the 8.29-8.32 mark. He proceeds to take BCs armbad at 8.31. At the 8.34 mark, 3 seconds after BCs armband is pulled, we see him, with his gun pointed at the JD player, appear to shoot his gun while his armband was pulled. The 3 for 1, according to the call by the head ref, should be on him. The JD player shot back, as anyone would, when they were getting shot at.

for reference- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qRZZJsZVmbo
that is exactly what happened...no where do you see a jd palyer shooting wiht his armband off...bc's was pulled...HE shot he jd player as he ran up...he shot back...game over...if it was this hard to call with like then and there...imo..i think there shuld have been a 1 on 1 or jsut paly the game over
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