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Old 10-25-2006, 07:06 PM #43
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pressuring the NPPL

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the fans and players have the right to pressure the league to improve how they handle these types of controversies. Nobody really thinks they can change the game's outcome, but we can still voice our opinions. The suspension is another story, however, Joy should not be subjected to things that can be settled with hindsight.
I agree. So what should come next? Opening a new thread on PBN and continue placing our e-mails here or e-mailing NPPL directly? It's NPPL's turn to address the issue and put it to rest.

Joy Divison is to be commended for their actions since the game. Magued, Maximus and the ENTIRE TEAM have kept their composure thus establishing a new higher standard. They have asked that all criticism of Dynasty be withheld and Max has even posted "good game" to Dynasty on their site. They are an incredible group of men........
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Old 10-25-2006, 07:09 PM #44
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well it looks like joy guy trades out with alex and then gets bunkered by bc over the snake and then bc gets bunkered by the last joy guy. its really tough for refs though cuz you dont have time to think about it, you just react. sometimes you make a bad call. this was a very bad call with really bad timing. joy got the short straw and the dragon really should have been slayed and the title given to xsv but oh well. nothing we can do now but argue over the internets about it.
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Old 10-25-2006, 07:24 PM #45
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ya but the guy that traded with alex, kept playing making the guy that bunkered bc eliminated by penalty. so bc never got bunkered making dynasty the winner. just it happened so fast that the last joy guy that came in probably wasnt even aware of it. thats my take on it all. no suspensions should be thrown out the joy guy that played on probbably shot alex first and thats why he stayed in the snake and played on no ref pulled his band it happend too fast.
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Old 10-25-2006, 07:26 PM #46
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Am I watching the same video as some of you guys? Here is my perspective.

First, the corner joy player goes to bunker alex, in my opinion, it was a trade because even if there are not hits on his chest after, he just could have rubbed them off as he slid. However, even if Alex didn't shoot the first Joy player, BC did. BC clearly shoots the joy player before the joy player shoots him. Slow the video down, BC's barrel is over the bunker right at the joy player while the joy player continues to look at the ground and then half *** fires upward at BC after he is over the bunker. IMO, that 1 for 1 was bull ****. Nevertheless, the last joy player comes running through shooting his gun, at dead players. I don't know if this is just me, but if I'm BC, and I know the last guy is coming through shooting his gun, I'm not going to sit there and take it, thus why alex grabbed him and BC shot him.
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Old 10-25-2006, 07:26 PM #47
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Joy got robbed. By both vids you can easily see that joy should have won. I cant see what the malicious overshooting was either. bc got his band pulled so hes dead no matter how bad the call so joy should have won. Even if bcs armband never got pulled joy still should have won. good job joy you guys deserved it
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Old 10-25-2006, 07:32 PM #48
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Per the rules Alex should have a 3 game suspension for the following see pic



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RULE 21.03 Three-Game Suspension. Players may be suspended, causing the team to play short for three games for the following infractions1) Outbursts. Throwing smaller equipment (e.g., goggles, harness) in an
unsportsmanlike like manner.
(2) Physical contact during or after play that does not result in injury (e.g., shove,grab, shoulder-bump).(3) Verbal Abuse. Verbally abusing any individual during or after play.
(4) Shooting at a Velocity of 320fps or higher.
(5) Not having a Barrel Blocking Device on maker in un goggled area.
(6) Not having the marker bagged outside Players Paddocks.
(7) Illegal Reentry. Player leaves the dead box and reenters the field, but does not shoot any paintball

BC should not have been able to hang the flag for the following reason from the rules.

NPPL Rule(3) Eliminated. Referee will signal when a player is eliminated by holding his
right hand on top of his head and pointing his left arm at the player who is
eliminated. The Referee will then pull the eliminated player’s armband. The
Referee cannot put a player back in after calling a player eliminated with a
hand signal.


and add this as well for both BC and Alex

NPPL Rule 18. Illegal Activities
18.01 Playing-On. A player that continues to play after being marked with paint is Playing-On. Playing-On includes, but is not limited to:
(i) Continuing to shoot or otherwise engage the opposition,BC
(ii) Continuing to move, except with respect to exiting the field by the most direct route or at the direction of a Referee,Alex
(iii)Talking, signaling or otherwise communicating, either to a Referee, opposing players or teammates, except that a player may say, “Hit” or, “Out” or something to that effect once,BC and Alex
(iv) Impeding the progress of opposition players or a Referee,
(v) Hampering a Referee in making a paint check or a call,
(vi) Discharging or degassing the marker or providing teammates with paintballs or equipment.
(vii) Remaining in the game while making no effort to leave the field.Alex

This is joys win not Dynasty's

Dynasty always has to make drama just to win...
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Old 10-25-2006, 07:53 PM #49
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OMFG PWNED so hard...that was good I must say.
and for all those "dont hate the refs hate the rule book" people
you suck
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Old 10-25-2006, 08:06 PM #50
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OMFG PWNED so hard...that was good I must say.
and for all those "dont hate the refs hate the rule book" people
you suck
i wouldnt say they suck, theyre just wrong.
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Old 10-25-2006, 08:25 PM #51
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I said what I said

yeeeea I spose you're right though... wrong is...nicer
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Old 10-25-2006, 08:26 PM #52
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Old 10-25-2006, 08:27 PM #53
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I was standing right in the middle of the action, directly under the scafolding that the camera that shot the Lucky video was on.

Does anyone realize someone from the crowd yelled "HE'S COMING" as the first Joy player ran down to bunker Alex? I heard it, so can you at 6:23 in the video. Turn it up loud and you can here it.

This is also when Alex turned towards the first Joy player and in my opinion it was a simo, both are out. This is also when I started taking pictures.

Also a very important point.... this entire chain of events took place in less then 10 seconds.

6:25 - Joy1 bunkers Alex - both are eliminated
6:28 - BC jumps in the snake and ensures Joy1 is elimnated
6:34 - Joy2 shoots Alex, Ref #28, Joy1 then BC

How is any ref, or group of refs, supposed to react to this bunkerfest when there are only a few seconds between each event?
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Old 10-25-2006, 08:33 PM #54
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It's funny how your statements change every post :nododgy:
How was I changing my statement. I think the call was the right one, but I have never seen finals go to a 1 on 1, and that would have been cool to see. You get it now?
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Old 10-25-2006, 08:38 PM #55
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Makeumwareit has this whole thing nailed down already.

Lawl anyone else notice that almost nobody knows the Joy players names? Most people (myself included) have just been referring to them as "Joy 1 and Joy 2" in order of appearance in the video. Several people in the Joy section have said their names though.
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Old 10-25-2006, 08:46 PM #56
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"Joy 1 and Joy 2" in order of appearance in the video. [/quote]
Joy 1 Is "SCANDAL"
Joy 2 is "SEBBAN"
Hope this helps....
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Old 10-25-2006, 08:48 PM #57
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the second JD comes around shooting BC like 10 times. no need for that when you are 3 FT. away.
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Old 10-25-2006, 08:51 PM #59
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the second JD comes around shooting BC like 10 times. no need for that when you are 3 FT. away.
he didnt shoot BC 10 times all at once, he shot BC more when BC shot him.
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Old 10-25-2006, 08:52 PM #60
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i was beginning to doubt the call and starting to side with joy until i saw this... the refs made absolutely the 100% right call... even though the 6 games suspension is a little much.
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Old 10-25-2006, 09:11 PM #61
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nuts and bolts nuts and bolts joy got screwed!

but also it has taking ever1 on the nation like at least 35 min to clearly watch,look,and determine what happened there it was not the correct call (i believe) but they did make A call with the 15 sec they had so it was a good job by the refs to make a call and stand with it even if I believe it to be the incorrect 1
JOY FTW?!

Also as u can clearly see this ref made the best call he could



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Old 10-25-2006, 09:45 PM #62
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The max captains post sums it up. joy lost, even though i wanted to see them win.
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Old 10-25-2006, 10:23 PM #63
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Might be wrong, but look at the Joy snake player...

right as the Joy guy in the snake is suppost to be hit by Yosh, ref walks around him and looks... paint rubs off the ref and onto Joys mask. At the same time people in the crowd are saying "he wiped it" "on his head". then the joy guy is pulled....
well yes at first he isnt shot in the mask and then he "mysteriously" is but still the wiped it thing istn true
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