[ryan89]

Originally Posted by ryan89

alright urgent problem. I was drunk the other night and i was talking to this chick that ive known has wanted to get with me for quite sometime. So we where talking on the phone and she was saying like take me out or w/e yah know and i was wasted but she didn't know it. I told her i would call her the next day or w/e and we will go "hang out" but now that im sober i have figured out what mistake i have made(she's a huge skank bag). She keeps calling my house and my cell phone and i keep getting my parents to tell her i'm not home. So basicaly i need to end it, i don't wanna be a Arshehole but i really need to get this over with and stop putting it off.

please!!! advice!!!

[olio (Banned)]

Originally Posted by ryan89

please!!! advice!!!

Tell her directly you want nothing to do with her and that you aren't trying to lead her on at all? I'm not expert but that seems like the best way of going about it

[12345421]

Originally Posted by ryan89

please!!! advice!!!

Tell her the truth?

[SledgeHammer (Banned)]

Originally Posted by Bobeo

Read "The Game" now. Personally, I thought that some of the approaches describes n it were the most helpful thing mentioned.

Bleached is the master at approaches. Wait for a reponse from him.

I don't feel like buying it, can you PM me a link to a torrent download or something like that? If you purchased then just don't worry about it.

[Bleachednblonde (Banned)]

Originally Posted by Bobeo

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Dude!?!?!? What. The. ****.

That chick that I messed up with a couple of days ago just sent me some comments on myspace. That has never happened before. If she is interested, show interested. If not, get the **** out.

I hate this **** where I have to use college level deductive reasoning, along with a good deal of calculus and chemistry, to figure out what a girl is thinking.

Seriosuly, I don't know if there is a more furstrating thing to have to do. In the entire world.

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Hey i've taken calculus I, II, III and differential equations... women still don't make sence sometimes

Originally Posted by SledgeHammer

Kind of a vague question here, probably asked before. What's the best way to go about introducing yourself to complete strangers (opposite sex) like I see a lot of very attractive girls at my school, I just find it hard to approach complete strangers, I think they might feel creeped out. I don't want to look like a weirdo or anything.

Read through this thread as well as Girl problem version 2.0. I'm sure you'll find more than enough suggestions

Originally Posted by Bobeo

Read "The Game" now. Personally, I thought that some of the approaches describes n it were the most helpful thing mentioned.

Bleached is the master at approaches. Wait for a reponse from him.

Yea but i'm so sick of writing them over and over. By far the most common question on here is "how do i start talking to a girl." I bet there are 30-40 good posts on these threads with tons of great advice. People just have to go dig them up. I don't even remember most of them anymore. I usually just say the first thing that pops into my head. Once again, it's not what you say, it's how you say it.

As for "the game." i like the theory, and the lines are probably still good in high school but at bars and clubs people have heard taht **** and will call you out for it. So it pays to have your own original material. I keep a little black book of openers and responses to common corners that a guy can get backed into. I then review before i go out for the night, and add to it as need be.

Originally Posted by Pretendeavor

I've read "The Game" and yeah its got some good approaches.
But i want to read mystery bleached you need to aim me
i changed my sn from killah conor
to kivetadei

so you need to tell me the author.

Mystery doesn't have anything published that you'd find on the book shelf. I found his DVD's on some torrent site and some of his online manuals. He pretty much preaches the same stuff as style. I'd suggest learning different methods, "Juggler, Tyler Durden, David D."

Originally Posted by TheFightnNutsak

if she is a prude then move on.

highschool = all about exploring ur sexual bonderies.

i agree... as well as college and your middle and late 20's!

[Bleachednblonde (Banned)]

Okay, while i'm waiting for the sleeping pills to kick in, let's talk about approaching women... i'm not going to simply give you the answer of say this to her, but instead teach you the thought process so you can hopefully come up with your own material.

First of all, stop waiting for signals. If your desire to meet her isn't a good enough reason to start a conversation with her then you don't deserve her! Not all people have their sex radar on like some of us. Just because she hasn't noticed you doesn't mean she won't be interested in you. If she's already given signals (stairing, smiling etc) then you go right over there and start flirting with her NO EXCUSES!

If she hasn't noticed you yet then it's your job to approach her in a non predatorial manner, meaning don't go right up to her and start hitting on her. Not cool, not effective. This is why you approach with very random questions. You want to engage a woman and suck her into a conversation, the best way to do this is with an opinionated question. More so, you want a question that will actually make her think. It's also helpful if you have good arguments for both sides. This way no matter how she answers you can agrue with her! Defending her point will keep her engaged.

Now i've said it once and i'll say it a million times it's not what you say it's HOW YOU SAY IT. If you don't know what i mean yet, go rent TOP GUN and watch how Tom Cruise acts around the chick! Or go find that guy in school who has all the girls falling at his feet and watch how he talks to women. Sometimes a good example is all you need.

Learn your nervous habbits and either work on getting rid of them or supressing them to look like something else. At bars i'd always play with the stir straw. I would always play with my keys in my pocket (bad habbit when talking to women) so i stopped carrying my keys in my front pocket!

Finally, the key to success with talking to women is the ability to be able to read their non verbal communication. For all people, most communication is non verbal but i'm a firm believer that this is even more true for women. It's important to know when you're woman says NO, if she means "NO" or if she means "**** YES!" Let's face it, women say everything they don't mean and mean everything they don't say... but that's just because they don't say it verbally. Non verbally a woman is telling you exactly what to do, you just have to be keen enough to pick up on it.

[gamedemon89]

why is it that every time i meet a girl and start liking her, and decide to do something (make a move, ask her out) she starts to see some one else even though shes been single for the longest time b4 she met me or b4 i get the balls to move??

[Pretendeavor (Banned)]

Originally Posted by gamedemon89

why is it that every time i meet a girl and start liking her, and decide to do something (make a move, ask her out) she starts to see some one else even though shes been single for the longest time b4 she met me or b4 i get the balls to move??

it sonds like you wait to long, you might have to speed up your game a little bit. Girls hate waiting around forever, and they will move on.

[Gin-n-Tonic]

so this kid keeps going after the same girls i like and i say girls because he has done this several times what should i do (i kno its not a girl problem) dont say beat him up cause we are or were friends

[MR. P1nK]

Originally Posted by Gin-n-Tonic

so this kid keeps going after the same girls i like and i say girls because he has done this several times what should i do (i kno its not a girl problem) dont say beat him up cause we are or were friends

Well are you or are you not friends? Also try not telling him who you like for starters.

[12345421]

Originally Posted by MR. P1nK

Well are you or are you not friends? Also try not telling him who you like for starters.

Ya, I've never told anyone who I like.

[Gin-n-Tonic]

yeah but i thought he knew i sorta went to homecoming with and the kid is my friend i guess

[TheFightnNutsak (Banned)]

Originally Posted by Gin-n-Tonic

yeah but i thought he knew i sorta went to homecoming with and the kid is my friend i guess

well why is someone your friend? because you have a lot in common with him, so its only natural that you like similar objects.

the problem might just be a lack of options.

[Blackdog455]

ok how do i know this girl likes me? shes my best friend ok and i fricken like her! her and i hang out a lot at school, we go places after school but i sometimes wonder if she likes me or not. I cant read non verbal communication that well....its hard for me...we talk and i ask who she likes and all shell say is "i cant tell you." but i did get the information that hes a junior in highschool...and i am to...where both juniors. Now i THINK she likes me but im not to sure...sorry if i didnt give enough info and just ask for more and iill try and give more...thanks...

[TheFightnNutsak (Banned)]

Originally Posted by Blackdog455

ok how do i know this girl likes me? shes my best friend ok and i fricken like her! her and i hang out a lot at school, we go places after school but i sometimes wonder if she likes me or not. I cant read non verbal communication that well....its hard for me...we talk and i ask who she likes and all shell say is "i cant tell you." but i did get the information that hes a junior in highschool...and i am to...where both juniors. Now i THINK she likes me but im not to sure...sorry if i didnt give enough info and just ask for more and iill try and give more...thanks...

best advice would be to aviod having female friends in highschool. things get less tricky in college but still aviod them like the plague

[MR. P1nK]

Originally Posted by Blackdog455

ok how do i know this girl likes me? shes my best friend ok and i fricken like her! her and i hang out a lot at school, we go places after school but i sometimes wonder if she likes me or not. I cant read non verbal communication that well....its hard for me...we talk and i ask who she likes and all shell say is "i cant tell you." but i did get the information that hes a junior in highschool...and i am to...where both juniors. Now i THINK she likes me but im not to sure...sorry if i didnt give enough info and just ask for more and iill try and give more...thanks...

What does she do when you guys go out together? Also she probably could like you, same thing happened with me and my current gf.

[Bobeo]

OK I number closed this girl in school today. We were staying after school for a club meeting and it was breaking up and everyone was getting ready to leave.

Anyways, I have talked to this girl once or twuce in my Spanish class and she seems pretty cool. She is a blonde soccer player, my "kryptonite." Anways, she is talking to two of her friends, both of whom are friends of mine as well. I walk up to the two and ask if they want to go downstairs and play euchre for a while (euchre club was going on downstairs). They say yes. I persoanlly think the key was completely ignoring this other girl. I didn't invite her along with her other friends.

After they said yes I waited for a second and asked the target if she wanted to be my partner and come play with us. She looked interetsed, but said no because she had to drve her friend home. I told her to omce anyways, that her friend could find another ride. She said yes.

We played euchre, at the end she gave me her number and we decided to meet up at this party this weekend I talkde about earlier.

May not have been the perfect pick-up, but it worked so great.

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Originally Posted by SledgeHammer

I don't feel like buying it, can you PM me a link to a torrent download or something like that? If you purchased then just don't worry about it.

PM sent.

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Originally Posted by Gin-n-Tonic

so this kid keeps going after the same girls i like and i say girls because he has done this several times what should i do (i kno its not a girl problem) dont say beat him up cause we are or were friends

Dude, out-game him. You just gotta take everything you know, and make it a competition. He is your opponent.

Actually if you are good friends, just call dibbs when you meet them. Set a time limit, say a week to pull a number, or else the other guy gets a shot.

You shouldn't need to out-game a friend of yours, but if need be go for it

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Originally Posted by Blackdog455

ok how do i know this girl likes me? shes my best friend ok and i fricken like her! her and i hang out a lot at school, we go places after school but i sometimes wonder if she likes me or not. I cant read non verbal communication that well....its hard for me...we talk and i ask who she likes and all shell say is "i cant tell you." but i did get the information that hes a junior in highschool...and i am to...where both juniors. Now i THINK she likes me but im not to sure...sorry if i didnt give enough info and just ask for more and iill try and give more...thanks...

Well, you are friends right now so the chances of her being attracted to you are slim. But not impossible. You have to make a decision: you can risk your friendship to see if she wants more, or keep what you have right now and be content with it.

If you choose to risk it, I honestly don't know what to do. Asking a friend something like that would be uncharted territoty for me. Personally, I would just be honest and ask if she wants what you want. But then again, that might be the most terrible idea anyone ever though of so take it with a grain of salt...

[Blackdog455]

im pretty sure she likes me but i have no clue really...

[Bobeo]

Originally Posted by Blackdog455

im pretty sure she likes me but i have no clue really...

You need to learn the signals. Unfortunately, there is no definitive lsit of signlas that show interest or attraction. You just have to sort of "know." And, we aren't going to be able to tell you if she likes you unless we begin following you around listening to your conversations with her.

I would presoanlly suggest keeping her as a friend for a few reasons.

One, a good friend is much harder to find than a potential girlfriend.

Two, having a good-looking friend helps when you go to other social events. She can intorduce you to her friends, which in turn makes your pool of potential girlfriends even larger. Also, walking into a room with a good looking friend on your arm breaks a lot of social proofs, especially if you don't look like Brad Pitt.

Three, there are plenty of girl that can be potential girlfriend in high school. Aks you parents which they are more liekly to talk to now: their bofriends/girlfriends from high school, or just the good friends they hung out with then? I would be willing to bet it is the friends.

[12345421]

Originally Posted by Blackdog455

ok how do i know this girl likes me? shes my best friend ok and i fricken like her! her and i hang out a lot at school, we go places after school but i sometimes wonder if she likes me or not. I cant read non verbal communication that well....its hard for me...we talk and i ask who she likes and all shell say is "i cant tell you." but i did get the information that hes a junior in highschool...and i am to...where both juniors. Now i THINK she likes me but im not to sure...sorry if i didnt give enough info and just ask for more and iill try and give more...thanks...

You're in the friend trap. Push your thoughts of her in "that way" out of your head. She doesn't like you, she trusts you enough to tell you that she likes some other guy and if you get your hopes up that it's you then you will be severely crushed when you find out it's not you. It happened to me last year, I managed to let her go when I realized that we were just really good friends. To date we are still good friends and I've met many girls through her.

[Blackdog455]

hmmm thats dissapointing....dang...well what to say? URRRGGG!! ok well im sure she likes me cause we flirt A LOT...if you call it flirting...though i dont know...its just confusing...ide just like to know who it is and if its not me then so be it...