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Old 10-25-2006, 03:13 PM #1
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Old 10-25-2006, 03:25 PM #2
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Old 10-25-2006, 03:27 PM #3
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interesting.. but its over the ref made the judgement.
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Old 10-25-2006, 03:38 PM #4
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interesting.. but its over the ref made the judgement.
And if it was a severely erroneous judgment, the fans and players have the right to pressure the league to improve how they handle these types of controversies. Nobody really thinks they can change the game's outcome, but we can still voice our opinions. The suspension is another story, however, Joy should not be subjected to things that can be settled with hindsight.
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Old 10-25-2006, 03:38 PM #5
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thanks bro this is good now we can see that the snake player for joy was already hit when bc comes in and continues to play BUT good play by BC and bad play on the joy player over shooting BC big time. gl to joy in there years to come and there 6 game suspension but GO DYNASTY
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Old 10-25-2006, 03:39 PM #6
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Wow, its sad how badly Joy was robbed. The NPPL really needs to do SOMETHING to calm this situation.
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Old 10-25-2006, 03:44 PM #7
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The ref pulled BC's armband, making him a dead player, you can see bc shoot the final joy player as he runs up... which is PLAYING ON. that should have ended the game. And that "malicious overshooting" wasnt as bad as once thought, that paint came from both joy players 12 shots/2players = 6shots each... ive been done worse.


i dont care so much anymore. im a dynasty fan but i like fair calls. in my opinion the refs lost and joy got the shaft. Joy should not be penalized.
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thanks bro this is good now we can see that the snake player for joy was already hit when bc comes in and continues to play BUT good play by BC and bad play on the joy player over shooting BC big time. gl to joy in there years to come and there 6 game suspension but GO DYNASTY
Yeah, pretty much sums it up. The Joy player in the snake trades with Alex and plays on, and it also shows how BC got there, without getting shot mind you, and the snake player plays on and shoots BC. Great call by the head ref, because the ref closest to the action hadnt made the right call initially, he said both BC and the snake player were out, when the snake player had traded with Alex, making the shots he put on BC null, and getting his team a penalty eliminating the last player automatically giving Dynasty the pull and the hang. It was the right call, and this vid just solidifies that.

*EDIT* and yes, the Dynasty players did a couple of things they should have been penalized for, but none of which would have changed the outcome of the game. The Joy player played on and tried to cheat them out of the game, whereas BC continuing to stay in was because the refs were running at them saying the snake player had been eliminated prior to shooting BC.
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Yeah, pretty much sums it up. The Joy player in the snake trades with Alex and plays on, and it also shows how BC got there, without getting shot mind you, and the snake player plays on and shoots BC. Great call by the head ref, because the ref closest to the action hadnt made the right call initially, he said both BC and the snake player were out, when the snake player had traded with Alex, making the shots he put on BC null, and getting his team a penalty eliminating the last player automatically giving Dynasty the pull and the hang. It was the right call, and this vid just solidifies that.

*EDIT* and yes, the Dynasty players did a couple of things they should have been penalized for, but none of which would have changed the outcome of the game. The Joy player played on and tried to cheat them out of the game, whereas BC continuing to stay in was because the refs were running at them saying the snake player had been eliminated prior to shooting BC.

if a ref pulls an armband, that player is gone. the end. BC's armband was pulled, he turned his gun on the last Joy player, playing on. the last Joy player gave him a few more shots (BIG DEAL...lasoya has gotten away with worse). All the shots on BC were from 2 different players not one, hardly malice. just a little extra to say "wtf mate?!"
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if a ref pulls an armband, that player is gone. the end. BC's armband was pulled, he turned his gun on the last Joy player, playing on. the last Joy player gave him a few more shots (BIG DEAL...lasoya has gotten away with worse). All the shots on BC were from 2 different players not one, hardly malice. just a little extra to say "wtf mate?!"
The snake player was long gone. He shouldnt have shot, because his playing on was putting the last Dynasty player out of commision. That would have been getting robbed. Joy got what they had coming for the idiot decision made by their snake player, everything afterward is irrelevant.
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Old 10-25-2006, 04:06 PM #11
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we all know the story. the head ref made the call. its now 3 days later. arguing saying how bad it was will not change anything. great vid though
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Might be wrong, but look at the Joy snake player...

right as the Joy guy in the snake is suppost to be hit by Yosh, ref walks around him and looks... paint rubs off the ref and onto Joys mask. At the same time people in the crowd are saying "he wiped it" "on his head". then the joy guy is pulled....
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Old 10-25-2006, 04:12 PM #13
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The only people that played on without their armbands were Dyanasty players.... no need for a suspension on Joy.
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Old 10-25-2006, 04:14 PM #14
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all i want to see is a clear photo of the joy guy shot before he did alex. been hunting in the vid looks like he got in clean did alex and was still clean.
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Old 10-25-2006, 04:15 PM #15
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MY TAKE IS AS THIS.

the dynasty guy got bunkered in the snake so they both got a 1for 1.A simple everyday trade off.The joy division guy that bunkered the first dynasty guy was out BC didnt know that si he jumped over the snake and bunkered him at the same time he got shot by that guy but the guy was out so technically BC was still in.Now the other joy guy bunkered BC but the fact that he sat there and just pointed his gun and unloaded caused him the game.There are absolutely no exuses for shooting someone so many time.I would pulled him out for that,If he wouldve just shot and they wouldve traded then a simple 1v1.Joy screwed themself over for over shooting.
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yeah that joy player killed alex and was deff clean
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The joy division player was not out. The ref clearly said in the video, after BC hopped over the snake that "both of you are gone". The second JD player came around the bunker, and because the ref did not signal BC out, assumed BC was still in play. This suspecion was further raised when BC shot back at him, hitting him in the goggles. BC was the one shooting without the armband.

No JD player shot without his armband on or played on, as the head ref claimed.

The JD player hit BC in the hopper multiple times. Isn't that the curtious way to bunker someone, especially someone who is shooting back at you?

This says nothing of how angel was prancing around on the sidelines grabbing at the JD player.
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I would have killed him too. BC was already pulled and was shooting. And alex was grabbing sebban as he came down the snake also.
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Old 10-25-2006, 04:18 PM #19
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I'll check this new video when I get home from work, but from the footage at PBFilms.com, it appeared that the Joy Snake player was shot AFTER he bunkered Fraige.

Look at the following frame captures from the video, take note of the angle of the splat.. and once he lands, take note of how far back the hit on the shoulder is.... even when laying down, the hit appears more to the middle & back of the shoulder which implies the Joy player was passing or past Fraige before Fraige shot him.













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Old 10-25-2006, 04:21 PM #20
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all i know is you can see the joy play go on to the next thing to shoot at and then pull his gun back and shoot close a few more times.
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The snake player was long gone. He shouldnt have shot, because his playing on was putting the last Dynasty player out of commision. That would have been getting robbed. Joy got what they had coming for the idiot decision made by their snake player, everything afterward is irrelevant.
we have yet to see pics of hits on the Joy player after bunkering Alex. We do have pics of Alex with about 3 shots on his shoulder, and him tyring to hit Scandal long after he's passes.

You cannot tell from any of the vids if the Joy player is hit running by Alex. If YOU can, than freeze the frame and show us.
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