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Old 07-13-2006, 12:46 PM #1
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it is wrong to

is it wrong to *****at a ref for a ****ty call in a begenners tourney league i mean im not a noob to the game but i havent played many touneys like 1-2
and i was in this standup and supposedly i got hit in the arm while me bein the paranoid lil ****er i am i start runnin the minute the ref comes to check me and they called a 1 4 1 on me and pulled my best guy who was not the closest player too me wich is a bunch of *** right there but the ting is i kinda felt lke i was bein a dick when i yelled cuz there were other tourney teams but we werent playin one that game so is it wrong to argue with a ref during a beginers tourney
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Old 07-13-2006, 12:50 PM #2
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Old 07-13-2006, 12:51 PM #3
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im srry i speak fluent american
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Old 07-13-2006, 12:52 PM #4
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Old 07-13-2006, 12:53 PM #5
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haha cartman is getting hella flamed.
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Old 07-13-2006, 12:53 PM #6
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agreed. Don't ***** at the refs...
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Old 07-13-2006, 12:55 PM #7
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lmfao...exactly
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Old 07-13-2006, 02:41 PM #8
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no im not gettin flamed itas constructive critizicsm
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Old 07-13-2006, 02:46 PM #9
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That was the longest sentence I have ever seen.
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Old 07-13-2006, 03:23 PM #10
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Old 07-13-2006, 03:30 PM #11
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That sounds like a situation at a certain tournament I happened to have been reffing and helped make the decision of...

The player got shot twice.
Took off from his bunker
Bunkered a player
Grabbed the flag
Hung the flag.

We pulled him, his buddy, wiped off the player he bunkered and gave the bunkered kid full points.

Why?

He was shot before he bunkered the player. If he had simply called out it would have been a 1 on 1 and his team would have had a higher chance of winning. And since we pulled his other player, the last player left would have been alive, would have pulled the flag and hung the flag.

But... maybe this is a different situation

Funny how the refs are all local Nov's and Am's reffing beginner...
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Old 07-13-2006, 03:40 PM #12
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Don't argue with the Refs but a 4 for 1 does seem a little harsh.

I could see a 2 for 1 but not a 4 for 1.
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Old 07-13-2006, 03:50 PM #13
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You were hit...you kept playing...how is a 1 for 1 not in order? It's not their fault they pulled the best player, don;t play on and get out.
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Old 07-13-2006, 07:29 PM #14
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Don't argue with the Refs but a 4 for 1 does seem a little harsh.

I could see a 2 for 1 but not a 4 for 1.
lol at you.

he ment a 1 for 1....lol

and there really is no point at yelling at the reff, there not going to change the call because you yelled at them.
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Old 07-13-2006, 07:34 PM #15
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Why would you run when a ref comes to check you? You are a *******, so, yes you were wrong to argue. Also, learn to how form and type sentences.
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Old 07-14-2006, 07:26 AM #16
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Basic rule of thumb: no matter what tourney you are playing in, the ref is god, and what he says goes. The refs may have a conference and change the call later if another ref saw something else, but that does not always happen.

There is no point in yelling at a ref, because he can easily just start pulling more players if he wants to. If you are out, he can pull a player for you talking from the dead box, or he will pull for something else. Like I said, the ref is god on the field.

if you got hit on the arm, and RAN fromt he ref, of course he is going to call you out and call you for playing on, i would have done the same thing.

Next time, just let the ref check you and call you clean (even if you looked and saw you were), THEN move.

If you do plan to argue, yelling is not the way to do it. Talk to the ref calmly and explain yourself, and ask why the call was made, don't just go off on him becuase that could be bad in the long run. If it is a small tourney, remember, you will be on the field with the same refs again soon, so don't piss them off.
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Old 07-14-2006, 08:45 AM #17
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you can get thrown out for that.
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Old 07-14-2006, 09:40 AM #18
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That was the longest sentence I have ever seen.
it never even ended...
in 2nd grade, I wrote a 15 page story about a leprechaun without a single period.
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Old 07-14-2006, 09:44 AM #19
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Here's some constructive criticism: You're a *******. You ran away from the ref because you got shot. You did what a million other choads have also tried and failed. I would have pulled a 3 for 1. The ref's call was solid and you got off easy. Stay in school and stay on your meds.

Also, to address the conception that the ref is a "god" no matter the circumstances. That's the position most rookie teams take up and pay for it. Refs are just bad paintball players, even the pro refs. They make as many ****ty calls and good ones. Players keep refs in check, its a mental game. I've seen refs distracted from making calls, good or bad, just because some dude is yelling at him. It's a mental game. Just as much as intimidating weaker teams, intimidating the refs is a strategy all tops teams have dialed. Refs are afraid of being reproached for sketchy calls, you can play off that fear and even make them think a legitiment call is a bad one. Anyone who's been to a national event has seen something like this happen. You'll be more successful if you treat refs as this maluable force that can either be your ally or enemy depending on how well you play the mental game. Yelling, calmly discussing a situation, doing a crazy dance, shooting the ref in the mask or nuts so his attention is elsewhere, etc. These are all weapons at your disposal. Its a war against the refs, too. This is the case no matter what, because you can play a 100% clean game and still have a ridiculous penalty acessed or they will let the other team slide on things or they will be completely blind all the time. Keep the judges in check and attain victory.
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Old 07-14-2006, 10:06 AM #20
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lzolz. You knew you might've and prolly were hit and you took off running. That's by definition playing on which entitles you to a free 1 for 1. That was a good call from the ref. Don't ***** to a ref for getting caught.
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Old 07-14-2006, 10:15 AM #21
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