[paintthower05]

I would get my friend to see what she thinks of me before I ask, but they are cruisin with some other friends tonight... I guess I'll get her to tommorrow.

[Sweet_Hitch-hiker (Banned)]

Originally Posted by paintthower05

Well me and these two chicks went to the movies today, one was my friends GF so that's off limits she and I just happen to be good friends, the other was her best friend. Well I have absolutly no self-esteem so I am completely blind to it when chicks like me, but I think that the best friend was kind of throwing me hints... We don't know each other that well I was wondering if its worth asking. This chick is kinda preppy and prolly out of my league. I guess what I am asking if a girl is telling you how sweet you are(after I paid for the movie, drinks, and popcorn) and complimenting your jeep wrangler was she flirting with me?

so wait, u took ur friends gf to the movies,,, and paird for her ticket, and snacks...... thats kinda sketchy...

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[paintthower05]

Originally Posted by Sweet_Hitch-hiker

so wait, u took ur friends gf to the movies,,, and paird for her ticket, and snacks...... thats kinda sketchy...

Well he was gonna go, but he had to cut grass or something and was totally cool with us still going... I would NEVER take my friends GF, she and I are good friends thats it. Her friend however, is what I am interested in. Taking a friends GF is one of the lowest things one could do.

[dtrump]

So, i was just wondering something, if I were to go out with a girl for the first time, what would be some basic things i would do? What are some non-cheezy questions to ask to find out more about her, or what kind of things woulda be good to talk about to get a conversation going? Just so I wouldn't look like an idiot on a date? Also if I'm on a first date should i pay for everthing of hers? ex: movie ticket/snacks or coffee at starbucks or w/e it is??

[StrongBad1177]

Originally Posted by dtrump

So, i was just wondering something, if I were to go out with a girl for the first time, what would be some basic things i would do? What are some non-cheezy questions to ask to find out more about her, or what kind of things woulda be good to talk about to get a conversation going? Just so I wouldn't look like an idiot on a date? Also if I'm on a first date should i pay for everthing of hers? ex: movie ticket/snacks or coffee at starbucks or w/e it is??

dont ask too many questions cause girls think its really annoying. so just the basics like seeing what she likes. and if u find what she likes hopefully she will take off on it and tell u alot about it. and try not to let there be too much silence where thigns seem uncomfortable but dont talk to much cause that is gets annoying to girls. the rest idk man.

[paintball_4_life]

Originally Posted by Bleachednblonde

No you shouldn't, because it just makes you look tooled. WHat you should do is stop calling her, stop talking to her and DONT give her another chance for gods sake!



There's no Specific time to make a move. It is completly dependant on the situation and how things are going. Ideally you want to start by taking small, sly steps towards a girl and fly in under the radar. Then once you're to the hook point where you know you have her, you want to start making bold moves that get a reaction out of her.
Let's say you meet a girl in the bar...
You open her and get a smile out of her. Now the goal here is to get her attracted to you so you don't fall into the friend catagory. But you also don't want to come on strong because hot women are approached by 15-20 guys a week, what sets you apart from every other *******?? The fact that you won't be hitting one her.
You start telling her a few stories... you want stories where you throw in little things that show why you're special. "OMG okay so i was riding my crotch rocket today and this guy ran a red and almost completely took me out... i can't stand the way people drive around here." What does this say to the girl (motorcycle = bad boys) +1 point!

i have to run, i'll finish this later

alright i know this is from a couple days and a few pages back but would u care to finish this, as this could be very usefull to me. thx

[splatballerchick]

Originally Posted by paintballer045

yeah,it thought that but i havent seen her in a year and i dont want her to think i actually love her(becuase i like her,and she knows)

so does that make any difference??????

If you dont love her then tell you like her but at this time you couldnt say that you are drop dead in love with her, that way she knows that she still has some work to do before she settles down...plus this will give you some time to play around with her if you know what I mean while at the same time showing her that you could get somebody better (dating other girls) and that she needs to continue to win you over...if thats what you want at least..its called playing hard to get and its a crap load of fun...

But on the other hand if your completely not interested in her for a future relationship than tell her that straight up...You could offer a fun activity but at the same time your not making yourself be attached to her with no other fun with you and another person...

I dont know if that will help you or not...but its worth a try...

[joobaca]

Originally Posted by paintballer045

yeah,it thought that but i havent seen her in a year and i dont want her to think i actually love her(becuase i like her,and she knows)

so does that make any difference??????

dude seriously u never need to put ur guard down. dont let her know u like her if ur not sure she likes u. if u do that ull just end up alone like those guys on made on mtv who get regected. u need to know she likes u before u tell her u like her. girls tend to have more interest in guys that have less interest in them. so make it seem that way. good luck.

[splatballerchick]

Originally Posted by joobaca

girls tend to have more interest in guys that have less interest in them. so make it seem that way. good luck.

yea its true

[a-5_pwner]

ok, so theres this girl with a big *** family, he oldest brother (21) is very protective. its really hard to get time alone with her while trying to keep her whole family from flipping(what they dont know cant hert them) and her whole family is protective. her oldest brother cought her with her head on my shoulder and got mad (gay huh?). now, ST what should i do? she hott and we have already done some stuff so i dont know.

[mo0op]

Originally Posted by a-5_pwner

ok, so theres this girl with a big *** family, he oldest brother (21) is very protective. its really hard to get time alone with her while trying to keep her whole family from flipping(what they dont know cant hert them) and her whole family is protective. her oldest brother cought her with her head on my shoulder and got mad (gay huh?). now, ST what should i do? she hott and we have already done some stuff so i dont know.

Get to know her family. Invite them for dinner. Take them to public places with your girlfriend. Earn their trust and then you can have more alone time with your girlfriend.

[a-5_pwner]

its been done, thats the thing. her dad invited me to the beach with them(friends with one of her bros who is cool with it). i just dont see why its such a big deal to the oldest brother.

[Nothings_Call (Banned)]

Originally Posted by mo0op

Get to know her family. Invite them for dinner. Take them to public places with your girlfriend. Earn their trust and then you can have more alone time with your girlfriend.

then buttsecks commences

[paint_ball98 (Banned)]

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would you bang this girl?

[a-5_pwner]

^ depends, one nighter or relation ship?

anyway, she called me her brother talked to her, its still gay idk what happpend.

[TeamOutcast614]

Originally Posted by paint_ball98

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would you bang this girl?

as your friend....

EWW!!!

[redjr1991]

Originally Posted by paint_ball98

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would you bang this girl?

shes ****ing ugly....



*points to avvy and says "not thats a girl i would bang"*

[annie<3pb]

I'm a girl.

/problem

[The Dread Pirate]

I posted this in a thread in OSST:

When it came to women I was a complete loser until the end of my junior year of high school. Seriously, I only had sex once before my senior year. I was fat, didn't know how to talk to girls and was always stuck in "the friend zone" if anything with girls. Then, something changed one day. I just had one of those "Office Space" moments where I just stopped caring what people thought. I then started to act like an ******* alpha male.

The problem I see most ST'ers have with women is that they are not in the alpha male mentality when dealing with women. Fawning over women and being "nice" gets you nowhere but being their cuddle *****. This is not to say you have to be mean or a dickhead all the time to women. That will get you nowhere also. You have to be an "*******." Treat women how they demand to be treated. If she carries herself like a dumb **** (99% of high school girls), treat her like one; if she demands respect, give it to her.

Before you EVER go out and talk to a woman, before you go out and leave your house, you have to be confident. I cannot emphasize this enough. You do not have to be Tucker Max or Stiffler from American Pie, but you must have some minimal level of self-assuredness and self-awareness. If you are weak or unsure, the woman will see it almost immediately and will almost always be put off by it. Nothing smells worse to a woman than desperation.

How can you be confident? That's like asking how you can be creative. There is no definitive answer. Confidence comes from within, comes from an understanding and acceptance of who you are and a belief in yourself and your abilities. If you have nothing good about yourself to believe in, then find something or do something that can give you that belief. Seriously--develop a skill or talent that you are proud of. Everything, and I mean EVERYTHING flows from your inner self. It is the foundation that all "game" is built upon.

Complete, utter, unshakable confidence in myself, confidence that is so high it borders on delusional hubris. Everything starts there. All of my other attributes have their foundation in my supreme egotism. Mark Twain, probably the greatest American writer ever, said it best, "With ignorance and arrogance, success is assured."

If you sit down and always consider all the possibilities, if you waste your time worrying what others will think, if you ponder whether or not you are good enough, then you never will be. Take risks, talk to that hot girl at the bar none of your friends will. The worst that will happen is she will say no.

Until you feel very comfortable with your skills with women, pick up women you know (i.e. a girl that goes to your school, someone who you've been introducted to by a friend, etc). If you are a relatively confident, decently dressed guy, and you have the attention of the woman. Guess what - you are at least half way there. The problem is that from this point forward, you are kinda on your own. I cannot script a conversation for you, and I cannot tell you what to talk about. A conversation is a dynamic, organic thing. What I can do is tell you how to talk to a woman, but not necessarily what to talk about.

1. Be attentive: When you are talking to a woman, pay attention to her. Listen to what they say, don't just wait for your turn to speak. Engage them on the topic, do not just blabber on about what you want to talk about. BUT - do not take this too far. DO NOT fawn over her, and DO NOT act like she is your universe. On the other hand, you can play it nonchalant and cool, but even if you do that, make it clear you are interested in the conversation and you enjoy talking to her (If you don't enjoy talking to her, then don't talk to her. If you are just talking to her to get laid, then fake it).

2. Do not focus on yourself, unless it's natural: Most people, especially guys, do this; they continually talk about themselves and always relate the topic at hand back to themselves. This is because most people are blindly self-centered, and don't even realize what they are doing. Avoid doing this. Women generally HATE guys who just drone on about themselves. Focus on her or on mutually interesting topics, and talk about yourself only if it is natural to the conversation. Make the conversation about a topic, not about yourself.

3. Be funny/witty/perceptive/intelligent/etc: There are few things worse than a boring person. If you are that guy, you are not getting laid without a credit card. Make funny observations, say smart things, have witty comebacks, etc. I'm not even sure how to explain anymore here, you either know what I'm talking about or you don't. If you don't know how to be funny or witty, then hang out with people who are and imitate them until you develop your own style. That's basically how I learned.

One legitimate question you could have here though is not "How do I be funny," but something like, "I am funny around my friends, but I just get nervous around women, I freeze up and I'm just not as funny."

This goes back to the confidence question. You are nervous because you are not experienced with women, and thus you have no basis for confidence. There IS a solution to this problem.

Stop CARING what the woman thinks about every word that comes out of your mouth. You care because you do not want to get rejected or look like a chump when they don't buy your game or call BS. Whatever. Who cares? At the end of the night, the handful of girls you talked to that evening will have their lips WRAPPED around somebody's cock and it might as well be yours. Being confident in what you are saying and not caring about the outcome of neither your conversation nor the evening as a whole will make you more attractive most women.

Display your strengths: I cannot emphasize this enough. Whatever you are, whatever it is you are good at, accentuate it. Women are naturally attracted to males who display some sort of quantifiable talent, some skill or ability that is valued in society. Have you ever wondered how ******* professional athletes or **** bag rockstars get *****? It has NOTHING to do with them as people; most of them suck horribly. Women are attracted to the fact that they have highly valued skills or talents, things that translate to power.

For you, being Joe Anonymous, it means that you need to give the woman something to admire or find attractive, and it usually doesn't take much. My god, even professional Golden Tee players have groupies. I can't tell you how many times in my life I've been spitting good game at a girl and she has given me no love, but once she finds out I'm a firefighter, or I have money, or any number of other cool things about me, she does a 180 and is completely into me. Many times it has nothing to do with your game - sometimes it's all about what you have to offer, so display it.

One note - Be somewhat humble about talking about your achievements. Unless you are a douche bag jamook, and all you have to offer is your coco-butter soaked body, don't just go around talking about how great you are. It always plays better if she finds out your achievements indirectly. It is a difficult dance, but that is what good wingmen are for - to tell her about you, so you don't have to.

[leet-moo]

The Pirate does it once again.

Edit- Dude awesome job, some stuff I never thought of before, hats off to you.